Hi Christopher The new Thunderbird was initially planned for a 4-year run, with a limited number of cars each year. I'm unclear if they're falling short of that plan, but I think they achieved more or less what they set out to do. They built the car cheap by using the Lincoln LS platform and that car's 3.9 V-8 (I believe that's the only engine it got in the US) and they created a lot of buzz for a while, and got people into Ford showrooms. This is different from the new 300 in a couple ways. The 300M is just a slightly smaller/sportier version of the "big Chrysler." There is nothing unique about it otherwise - it's a relatively high volume car. The 300 name had nothing to do with its success, they could have called it anything. The next version "300C" or whatever, will be a little more interesting, but still a mass-market product. Yes, the 300 name has already been diluted, but you must understand it doesn't have nearly the name recognition of the Thunderbird. Everybody knows a Thunderbird. How many here know the 300 letter series? Hardly any. People still think my car is Cadillac or Studebaker as often as a Chrysler, never mind a legendary Chrysler 300. It just never made the impression the T-bird did on American culture. I'm not sure why Chrysler bothered to revive the name at all. You may criticize the new T-bird all you want, but it has stayed true to its heritage. Jim Mateja of the Chicago Tribune asked the main T-bird marketing guy if there would ever be more doors or a back seat, to which he replied "over my dead body." Regards, Andy --- christopher beilby <thelastbestgenius@xxxx> wrote: > > Firstly an apology for a typo in my earlier email > with list of 3 world's > greatest production 'pre 2000 high performance > styling' icons that were > ahead of their peers - I should have typed > Lamborghini MUIRA, not Espada - > the Espada is a great car, but never deserves the > greatness that is the > Muira - those astute car lovers may have realised I > meant the Muira when > they saw me mention it was world's first mass > production rear engined V12 > GT. > > Re discussion or debate re Chrysler's plans to > re-launch the 300 name - may > I suggest that D-C take serious note of the fact > that print media here in > Australia now says Ford is to drop the new > Thunderbird. > > Reasons for this include: > 1) mentioned in article was that once the more > correct size motor (bigger) > that Ford should have put in it's Ford (a 60s Datsun > Fairlady copy looks > wise?!) Thunderbird 'rebirth' was announced (sorry > for the difficult to > read sentance), that massive discounting was needed > to sell the smaller > motor ones they were still building until ready to > build the new larger > motor one. This apparently buggered the values of > existing ones. > and 2). to my mind the car looked to bloody > ordinary, see my above thoughts > in brackets. > > You might ask what has this to do with D-C, any new > 300. Well amongst my > ongoing thoughts sent to Ford over 2 years re their > Australian product, I > also warned them I thought their new Tbird was > doomed to short term success, > for exactly the two reasons above. They acted to > put the larger motor in, > but too late, or wrongly. > (They also have acted on most every other suggestion > I offered them, all > except a new 3 word Ford World marketing theme, > which they initially thought > meritorious enough to send direct to US Bosses. Now > a much better product, > sales of new Ford family size sedans have increased > 50% in last six months. > ) > > Anyhow, here is another prediction, this time for > D-C, either do any new 300 > properly, in the same vein as the original '55 300 > to say '62 300 - OR ELSE > FORGET IT , LIKE FORD YOU WILL HAVE WASTED A GOOD > IMAGE, ICON. AND YOUR NEW > 300 WILL BE SHORT LIVED. > > Here is hoping D-C hold off on using the 300 name > until they have a car that > looks better than it goes!!?? > > Enough for now, petrol here down to 79c a litre > today, but I see on TV oil > overseas is nearly back up to $30 a barrel again, so > how long before our's > here is back up to a dollar a litre !? > > Keep those 300s rolling, our dollar is 65c to your > 100c, so we still can't > afford much from you. > > Aussie Christopher > > _________________________________________________________________ > ninemsn Extra Storage is now available. Get larger > attachments - > send/receive up to 2MB attachments (up to 100 > percent more per e-mail). Go > to > http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/home&pgmarket=en-au > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com