Hi John, I've been told that when you get the older non-unibody cars up to 140 mph, you discover why they came out with the unibody. And it isn't because it was cheaper! Apparently that's why my friend's "Kiekhaefer special" C-300 had that steel plate welded across the body in back of the rear seat. Apparently Hudson knew that even earlier -- as my Hudson friends used to point out. Kurt Kurt Greske ( kurt_greske@xxxx )