RE: [Chrysler300] Oct Hot Rodding
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I tend to agree with your assessment of this "Musclecar" business. I am reminded of a local Mopar only show I attended last year where nearly every car in attendence was, by definition, a Musclecar, except for a few "antique" Plymouths, Chryslers and 1 De Soto...and of course, my 300G.

Having won a trophy and as I was walking up to claim my prize, the announcer stated that while my car was not a "genuine" Mopar muscle car and probably wasn't the fastest Mopar on the lot, it most definitely was the "King" of the Mopars for many years, and in some estimations, still is.

Then I can recall some Mopar shows that didn't want to acknowledge my 300 as even being a "Mopar".....duh!

Karl


From: "JONES,DOUG (A-USA,ex3)" <doug_jones@xxxx>
To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] Oct Hot Rodding
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 16:13:45 -0600

There is a difference between a 'banker's express' and a muscle car. It is
commonly held that the first muscle car (meaning big engine in a compact
(well, relatively compact), fairly inexpensive car was the '64 GTO. It is
also commonly held that the muscle car era ended in the early '70s due to
emissions restrictions. As with any arbitrary definition, this one causes
problems. Nobody would doubt that a '69 Camaro with a 396 is a muscle car,
but is the same Camaro with a 327, or even a 6, still one? I would argue
they are not. What about big engine imports like the Jensen Interceptor,
Iso Grifo, and Facel Vega? Most would argue these are Banker's Express
cars, not muscle cars. The 300 certainly invented the American version of
the Banker's Express, which was copied in various Tbirds, Rivieras, Grand
Prix etc. An Eldorado with a 500 inch engine is NOT a muscle car, and for
the same reasons (too big, too expensive, and too heavy) I personally would
argue that the 300 is not a muscle car. MoPar muscle cars are the (big
engines only, please) A, B, and E body ChallengaRudas, ChargRoadSuperBs, and
ValDustDart 340's. My opinion only, of course, and as arbitrary as any
other ...


300ly, Doug

-----Original Message-----
From: Owen & Jo Grigg [mailto:ram300@xxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 3:06 PM
To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; heinitz
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Oct Hot Rodding


Good question how do you define what a "musclecar" is?
Sometime back I was invited to show my 300C at the National Musclecar Show
in NZ. Now I was told they had to bend the rules to allow my car in. There
rule book states only early 60's to early 70's as a musclecar. The C stood
out like a sore thumb at the show, and more than a few scoffed at it, saying
what's a full size '50s car doing here.
I on the otherhand looked around at the small cubic displacement Mustangs,
Camaros, and Cudas, which I commonly refer to as "school girls cars", ie-
low hp compact cars!
My C puts out 375hp from factory other cars present were lucky if they broke
the 300 mark. So if the word muscle means hp..........
Or does it mean any old compact from the 60's and 70's era?
Owen


Question. At a meet last year my 68 300 was judged as a reg Chrysler, when
along side of me a Baracuda with a 318 was judged as a muscle car. I thought
that was wrong, what do you guys think?.
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