I have done a fair amount of hauling various kinds of old cars too and I would say that Lee's saftey remarks are right on the money. If you want real saftey in towing you need at least a 3/4 ton (even four wheel drive is a must in fields I encountered at a few shows). I have a tilt trailer and it is a pain in the butt and the stabalizer and load leveling units are a real pain with the tilt set-up. Tilts are good for really low cars like a Vette. I prefer the 6.0 diesel Ford crew cab truck over any Dodge any day but they are all good with a 300 on the trailer......Bill (Indiana) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee Meyer" <js23rob@xxxxxxx> To: "'Ray Jones'" <hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxx>; <HighOctan300H@xxxxxxx>; <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 1:05 AM Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] Re: Trailer Advisee? I do a fairly large amount of car hauling, lots of cross country ventures etc. longer trailers are heavier, harder to park and maneuver, generally a waste of money for the infrequent hauling of a collector car here and there. There is no safety difference between a 16 and 20 footer at the size and weight level of a 70 300. If you are worried about safety, look at what you are going to pull the trailer with. Anything short of a heavy duty FULL size 3/4 ton pickup (preferably a Diesel Dodge)is just plain a bad idea. A one ton dually is best. Suburbans, ford exploders or extruders are for getting groceries. Any form of SUV thing the same. These type vehicles are simply not capable of safely pulling a loaded car trailer around. Some of you are doing it anyway and are now pissed at me but whatever, just because your minivan will physically get that trailer going down the road doesn't mean you should. Mushy suspensions, inadequate brakes, etc can be disastrous! Tilt beds are a pain in the ass as well as heavy and expensive, and not needed for a driving car at all. I have a 16 foot Carson trailer with a wood floor bed that is rated at 7000 lbs. it weighs in at 1600 lbs empty which is pretty light for a steel trailer. I have repeatedly loaded it with 8000+ lbs and it does not flex a bit and pulls bitchin, straight as an arrow down the road. Trailer cost including registration and a spare was $1800 out the door. The steel floor option would add about $300ish to that and a few pounds. My tow vehicle is of course a 98 Dodge 3500 extra cab dually with the Cummins Turbo Diesel, a 5 speed manual trans with a US Gear overdrive splitter and a 3.54 rear axle gear. It makes over 400 horsepower and 800 foot-pounds of torque at the rear wheels and gets 20 mpg pulling a load if I can keep my foot out of it. Anything else simply would not do! Just my two cents! Lee in San Diego -----Original Message----- From: Ray Jones [mailto:hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 8:52 PM To: HighOctan300H@xxxxxxx; Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Re: Trailer Advisee? How much do you want damaged? Longer is better, safer. I'd get 20'. Trailers come in all grades, and since you're gonna spend money, get as good as you can get. You have to work with it for a long time, spend a little more and make it easy on your self. Visit H&H Trailers in Iowa. Lots of trailers out there but this is one of the best I've seen. http://www.hhtrailer.com/ MX is manual tilt, EX is power tilt SpeedLoader MX T8.5HD20 MX MAN/HYD 8.5x20'MX SpeedLoader Manual Tandem Tiltbed hand pump/hydra... $2,265 With some options, near $2500. It's a well built trailer, look around the web site. Ray -------------------------------------- Ray Jones, Jones Ridge, in the Ouachita Mtns near Mena, Western Arkansas All Y'all come visit, Y'hear? > From: HighOctan300H@xxxxxxx > Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 23:21:39 EDT > To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [Chrysler300] Re: Trailer Advisee? > > Hello group, > Need advise... looking to buy a trailer to haul my 300 Hurst. > Total length is 224.7 in. almost 19 FT. Wheelbase 124" a little over 10 FT. > Do I need an 18 FT. trailer or can I get by with a 16 FT. > How much overhang is acceptable ;-( > Thanks, JOE > > Joe Gross > HighOctan300H@xxxxxxx > 70 Chrysler 300 Hurst > Cleveland, OH > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > To send a message to this group, send an email to: > Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > For list server instructions, go to > http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm > Yahoo! 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