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Interesting take on the 62 300 From: FFGREG32@xxxxxxx 2. re power window motors From: "Fern Rivard" <crc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 3. timing and vacuum From: john_nowosacki@xxxxxxxxxxx 4. 6 volt positive ground question From: "David Zakarian" <arshog@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 5. Re: timing and vacuum From: "Laurence G. Johnson" <laurence_g_johnson@xxxxxxxxxxx> 6. E-bay Scam!! From: Rusty and Thelma Roe <saxblowr@xxxxxxxx> ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 08:49:17 EDT From: FFGREG32@xxxxxxx Subject: Interesting take on the 62 300 Saw this on the 62 to 65 Mopar list interesting looking hotrod. http://www.livejournal.com/community/american_muscle/22755.html#cutid1 I am excited as my 300K is nearing the end of the cosmetic portion of its restoration. I am hopeful that I can make it to the Chrysler Nationals this coming weekend. Will there be a contingent of 300 owner's? I was at Carlisle and missed the 300 contingent somehow. Every time I went by the cars it seemed they were abandoned. This time I will have more free time unless Mr. Govier desires my help at his swapspace as at Carlisle. Well, if any 300 owners will be there and want to bring spares with, I could use 5 14 inch steel rims for the K. Also needed are two horns, and J-bolt, washer, and wingnut for trunk jack kit. I am currently attempting the revival of my rear window seal, I hope that my efforts prove successful. If not I have been directed to sources who have decent ones. Fremans seems to be an excellent source by the way. Well, I hope all club members have a great week! 300ly, Greg [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 09:23:25 -0700 From: "Fern Rivard" <crc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: re power window motors I've just located a few Mopar power windows units marked 2520902. Can someone please identify those for me as to what year and windows they will work on. Thanks from Fern ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 10:14:19 -0600 From: john_nowosacki@xxxxxxxxxxx Subject: timing and vacuum Question for the mechanics in the group. Can ignition timing (distributor position) have an effect on measured intake manifold vacuum? My 57 is running ragged after replacing the two silly Holley 2-barrels with rebuilt original WCFB's. I know distributor may have been bumped over the winter, but I'm having trouble locating either a mark on the balancer or markings on the metal tab that used to have 0-5-10 (?) or 5-0-5 (?) labeling. I'm only measuring 10-12" of vacuum, and I think it should be closer to 20". Car starts ok, runs at a fast idle, but seems to be running on less than all 8 at low idle. Also, while I have your attention, exhaust gas from the passenger side is significantly warmer (at tailpipe) than drivers side. (no crossover tube in exhaust system, and same volume of air coming out each side). It was a long winter, so I changed (too) many things without being able to restart after each to check progress. (pulled plugs to put new valve cover gaskets on, pulled old Holleys to put on freshly rebuilt WCFB's, relocated coil and wires to proper position to make room for air cleaners, etc.) Any help/suggestions appreciated. If timing is too far advanced, and cylinders fire perhaps a tiny fraction before intake valves are closed all the way, I assume that would reduce vacuum, or am I over complicating things and the WCFB's are the most likely culprit? It should be simpler than this. It's just fuel and air in the right ratio at the right time! John ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 10:25:20 -0700 From: "David Zakarian" <arshog@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: 6 volt positive ground question At the coil, on a neg ground, their is a wire from the horn relay to the positive post and a wire from the negative post to the distributor. So, on a pos ground is this reversed? Horn relay to neg post on the coil and pos post on the coil to the distributor? Zak [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 13:48:44 -0400 From: "Laurence G. Johnson" <laurence_g_johnson@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: timing and vacuum John, Ignition advance at idle has a dramatic effect on intake manifold vacuum. Most engines of this period need 8-12 degrees of static (initial) advance and should idle with 16-18 inches of mercury. Vacuum falls off to 6-10 inches and the idle roughens as the timing is retarded. If the initial timing is too far advanced, the engine will appear to drag or even kick back on the starter while cranking. I don't think that's your problem, however. Your post mentioned changing carburetors, installing the original WCFB's. These carbs had heat crossovers cast into the cast iron base plates in the vicinity of the front throttle bores. The original gaskets were asbestos-steel shim construction to withstand the heat and had cutouts to match the crossover passage. However, the cast passages had many different shapes and positions and the gasket has to match the specific carb. If the gasket and passage mismatch, or if you install them upside down, you will have a big vacuum leak and the engine will idle with low vacuum as a result. Give that a look before changing the distributor. Larry Johnson >From: john_nowosacki@xxxxxxxxxxx >To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [Chrysler300] timing and vacuum >Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 10:14:19 -0600 >Question for the mechanics in the group. >Can ignition timing (distributor position) have an effect on measured >intake manifold vacuum? >My 57 is running ragged after replacing the two silly Holley 2-barrels with >rebuilt original WCFB's. >I know distributor may have been bumped over the winter, but I'm having >trouble locating either a mark on the balancer or markings on the metal tab >that used to have 0-5-10 (?) or 5-0-5 (?) labeling. >I'm only measuring 10-12" of vacuum, and I think it should be closer to >20". >Car starts ok, runs at a fast idle, but seems to be running on less than >all 8 at low idle. >Also, while I have your attention, exhaust gas from the passenger side is >significantly warmer (at tailpipe) than drivers side. (no crossover tube >in exhaust system, and same volume of air coming out each side). >It was a long winter, so I changed (too) many things without being able to >restart after each to check progress. (pulled plugs to put new valve cover >gaskets on, pulled old Holleys to put on freshly rebuilt WCFB's, relocated >coil and wires to proper position to make room for air cleaners, etc.) >Any help/suggestions appreciated. >If timing is too far advanced, and cylinders fire perhaps a tiny fraction >before intake valves are closed all the way, I assume that would reduce >vacuum, or am I over complicating things and the WCFB's are the most likely >culprit? >It should be simpler than this. It's just fuel and air in the right ratio >at the right time! >John _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 13:25:43 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) From: Rusty and Thelma Roe <saxblowr@xxxxxxxx> Subject: E-bay Scam!! Attention e-bay users.....I just got word from a friend of mine that he was just scammed out of $3600 trying to buy an ATV 4-wheeler.....the listing was on e-bay for a quick 3 day auction...the seller contacted my friend, the highest bidder at the time and said he was leaving for europe, and if he wanted to just buy the item he would unlist it from e-bay and sell it to him ..the seller wanted a Western Union wire transfer....the money was sent and since it was unlisted from e-bay they have no liability for goods sold but not delivered and have no record of the item being listed...the ATV was never sent and the e-mail address of the buyer is no longer a valid e-mail address... I thought of all the e-bay items I have bought, and all the good luck I have had with honest deals, but there are crooks out there and everyone needs to be cautious and curious when something seems too good to be true........Rusty Roe 300-c coupe [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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