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There are 8 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: runaway on 2-3 upshift ('57 Torqueflite)
From: Bruce Paul <b_paul_ncp@xxxxxxxxx>
2. Michigan meet pictures
From: "Bob Merritt" <rcmerritt@xxxxxxxxxx>
3. rear main seal on 331
From: "David Zakarian" <arshog@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
4. Re: kickdown problem on '57 Tqf (related to runaway 2-3 upshift
?)
From: "elmer tuuri" <eltuuri@xxxxxxxxxxx>
5. Brake drum size.
From: "David Agnew" <Fnnutz@xxxxxxxxxx>
6. Re brake drums
From: "David Agnew" <Fnnutz@xxxxxxxxxx>
7. Re: kickdown problem on '57 Tqf (related to runaway 2-3 upshift
?)
From: "Warren R Anderson" <wranderson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
8. Chrysler 300 upcoming shows in Detroit
From: Ray Jones <hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 05:35:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bruce Paul <b_paul_ncp@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: runaway on 2-3 upshift ('57 Torqueflite)
Hi Philippe,
This sounds like a problem that I encountered about a
year after I rebuilt the Torqueflite in my G. The
problem turned out to be the reverse band adjustment.
Possibly due to initial wear on the new reverse band,
I readjusted it per the manual and the problem
disappeared and has not come back.
Bruce Paul-Cherry Hill, NJ
--- Philippe Courant <accf-club@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
> hi,
> After my squealing brakes problem (i have no time
> since monday to fix
> it...) i had also another problem (which in fact i
> 've since i
> overhauled the trans. some years ago but more
> noticeable this damned
> monday) : an overspeeding of the engine every time
> the trans. upshifts
> from 2 to 3. Only a 1/2 second but not a very good
> thing for the engine
> .. As you think the runaway is much noticeable if
> the upshift occurs at
> a higher speed.
> If i look at the trasnmission power flow i note that
> when the trans must
> shift from 2 to 3 you must have simultaneously a
> disengagement of the KD
> band and an apply of the rear clutch (front clutch
> remains engaged). it
> seems that on my car the two actions are not
> simultaneaous... Why ?
> Problem with the 2-3 shift valve or the "shuttle
> valve". Or anything else ?
>
> Oil level is OK. Transmission has 4000 miles since
> overhaul. No slippage
> , no problem on 1-2 upshift.
>
> I have also a "forced kick down" problem (no KD ..)
> but i'll explain it
> on a next message
>
> --
>
> Philippe COURANT (Pau, France)- Webmaster des sites
> ACCF et C-I-F
> Imperial 1957 Crown convertible
> Buick 1996 Roadmaster wagon
>
> - American Car Club de France (ACCF) :
> http://www.accf.com
>
> - Chrysler Imperial France (C-I-F) :
> http://www.ifrance.com/c-i-f
>
> - Cadillac " Standard of Excellence " :
> http://www.ifrance.com/accf-cad
>
> - SportsCars : http://www.ifrance.com/accf-sprtcar
>
>
>
>
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 15:10:42 -0400
From: "Bob Merritt" <rcmerritt@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Michigan meet pictures
The EEC could use the assistance of those attending the meet last week in
Battlecreek: we need digital pictures of people, places, and cars for the
club web site.
Please send jpegs to John Hertog at crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Thanks.
Bob Merritt
John Hertog
Don Warnaar
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 14:41:28 -0700
From: "David Zakarian" <arshog@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: rear main seal on 331
I'm looking at the gasket set for the 331. The rear main seal is
neoprene. The half that fits in the cap seem to be correct but the half
that fits in the block has probably 80% of the housing that the seal fits
into empty. I was told by hot heads to fill under the seal with silicone.
This sounds really Mickey mouse. Does this work or should I go find a
rope seal(didn't come with the gasket kit)?
Zak
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 01:01:15 +0000
From: "elmer tuuri" <eltuuri@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: kickdown problem on '57 Tqf (related to runaway 2-3 upshift
?)
Light throttle 2-3 shift should be at 23-28 mph--never over 30. You have
lengthened the rod
too much.Make sure it's not hanging up---binding or too weak return
spring.
Actually I think
some valve is sticking in valve-body.--or internal problem.You say it is a
recent rebuild ---
bring it back
Elmer Tuuri
Canada
>From: Philippe Courant <accf-club@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: Chrysler 300 Yahoo List Server <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,Fwdlk
><L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [Chrysler300] kickdown problem on '57 Tqf (related to runaway
2-3
>upshift ?)
>Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 10:13:48 +0200
>
> her's my second Torqueflite problem :
>I never have a "forced kickdown downshift" since i rebuilt the Tqf (i
>don't know if the car kickdowned before as it was not running..)
>The car downshifts well if i slow down but if i push the gas pedal to
>floor the car remains in 3.
>
>I've tried to lenghten the throttle rod, result has been that trans.
>upshifts at higher speed. Now the 1-2 upshift occurs at 15-20 mph (with
>light throttle) and the 2-3 at 30-35 with light throttle. If i put
>heavier pressure on pedal the shifts occur at higher speeds (as 30 and
>50 may be, i don't test often because the runaway 2-3 !!).
>
>Note that if i uphift manually with buttons i've also the 2-3 runaway.
>
>I've looked at various manuals about kickdown linkage. About "forcing
>kickdown" they say: "depressing the pedal past the detent "feel" near
>wide open throttle. What is this detent feel ? What must i "feel" ?
> (The FSM talks about a kickdown detent plug on stem of kdwn valve which
>supplies the resistance necessary for a detent "feel". but i don't know
>how works this plug which slides on the kdwn valve stem). Does this
>imply that i must feel then overcome a hard point at end of accelerator
>pedal travel ?
>I've also read somewhere that "accelerator pedal must permit a
>transmission kickdown without compressing the floor mat" (if not adjust
>pedal-to-bell crank). Perhaps (even if i set up the pedal at 118°) my
>pedal doesn't permit to go in kickdown range ?
>
>Surprisingly i've read on the IML page someone (Peter) who had the same
>problem than me !!
>(http://www.imperialclub.com/Repair/Transmission/kickdown.htm). Don't
>know if Peter has solved the problem and how...
>
>Thanks to all for the messages.
>
>
>--
>
>Philippe COURANT (Pau, France)- Webmaster des sites ACCF et C-I-F
>Imperial 1957 Crown convertible
>Buick 1996 Roadmaster wagon
>
>- American Car Club de France (ACCF) : http://www.accf.com
>
>- Chrysler Imperial France (C-I-F) : http://www.ifrance.com/c-i-f
>
>- Cadillac " Standard of Excellence " : http://www.ifrance.com/accf-cad
>
>- SportsCars : http://www.ifrance.com/accf-sprtcar
>
>
>
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>
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 13:19:03 +1200
From: "David Agnew" <Fnnutz@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Brake drum size.
Hi folks. Can anyone with a '66 parts book tell me if the front hub and
brake drums ,11" x 3" are #2266896/7, left and right.... and the rears
#2533824. My '65 NY'er ones are all on the 11.060 limit and I've found 4
good '66 Fury ones. Will they fit? They ARE the same in '65.
Thanking you in advance......
.Dave.
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 13:21:42 +1200
From: "David Agnew" <Fnnutz@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re brake drums
Ooh, sorry, the rears are 11" x 2 1/2".
Dave
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 19:56:57 -0700
From: "Warren R Anderson" <wranderson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: kickdown problem on '57 Tqf (related to runaway 2-3 upshift
?)
>Light throttle 2-3 shift should be at 23-28 mph--never over 30. You have
>lengthened the rod
>too much.Make sure it's not hanging up---binding or too weak return
spring.
>Actually I think
>some valve is sticking in valve-body.--or internal problem.You say it is
a
>recent rebuild ---
>bring it back
The pieces of the kickdown valve asssembly can be assembled logically but
wrong and cause shifting patterns like WOT regardless of throttle position
(don't ask).
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 22:58:12 -0500
From: Ray Jones <hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Chrysler 300 upcoming shows in Detroit
For those close enough, here's a couple of shows I was notified of. If
anyone wants more info, contact me privately, and I'll forward the
e-mails.
Please see press release (pasted below) to learn how you and your car club
members can join other car clubs throughout Michigan to celebrate in
Detroit's first Motor City Cruisin'? (MCC) weekend charity event July
18th-20th at Historic Fort Wayne (6325 W. Jefferson, Detroit, MI)! You
may
have been contacted regarding this event. If not, review the attached
information regarding registration. Should you have any questions, feel
free to call A. Miller Group Foundation (248) 395-4400 or email
amillergroup@xxxxxxxx To participate in MCC auto activities, complete the
attached registration form and fax to the attention of Alan Miller at
(248)
395-4400 by the June 30, 2003 Registration Deadline. Thanks!
And:
July 20, 2003. 13th Annual Mopars at the Daimler/Chrysler Belvederes
Assembly Plant, just off I-90, Belvedere IL. Sunday July 20th, 8am -
3pm. Huge all Mopar Show, Swap Meet and Car Corral. All years of
Mopars Welcome, cars, trucks, vans, stock or modified. For more
information call Guy Morice, 630-554-2119
And in the Houston area:
Oct 4-5. 14th Annual Houston Mopar Show and Race. Houston Texas. Call
Herb Glaesman For Details 713-864-9999 www.houstonmopars.org,
www.precisionengine.com
See y'all in Dayton, Sept 3-7.....Y'all come now y'hear??
Ray Jones
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