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There are 10 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: AIr Cleaner 300K
From: crash5194@xxxxxxx
2. Greetings
From: RONVE@xxxxxxx
3. Holiday Greetings
From: SADuggan@xxxxxxx
4. Holiday Greetings
From: "Wieland, Elizabeth" <EWieland@xxxxxxxxxx>
5. Christmas & Health
From: "Wayne Graefen" <wgraefen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
6. Re: Car does not want to start
From: "Ryan Hill" <ryan_hillc300@xxxxxxxxxxx>
7. Re: Car does not want to start
From: "Warren R Anderson" <wranderson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
8. Re: AIr Cleaner 300K
From: Ray Jones <hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxx>
9. Re: Car does not want to start
From: "obiwan10" <obiwan10@xxxxxxxxx>
10. Re: Car does not want to start
From: Ray Jones <hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 08:53:44 EST
From: crash5194@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: AIr Cleaner 300K
Bruce,
I have a 300-K with a single Carter AFB 4bbl and it has a 10 or 12"
dia air filter.
I didn't think that in '64 they had the crankcase breather hooked to
the air filter until '65.
Someone may have replaced the old air filter assembly with a newer
type to hook to the crankcase beather to get rid of the smoke and slobber.
Crash
300-K convert
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 09:38:36 EST
From: RONVE@xxxxxxx
Subject: Greetings
List,
However it is that each of you celebrates this season of the year, ... I hope
you are having the best Holiday ever this time around!
Wishing each of you a warm and comfortable one.
Thanx for a great year of Moparing info and Chat ...
Thank You all for your friendship!
Ron...
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 11:18:18 EST
From: SADuggan@xxxxxxx
Subject: Holiday Greetings
May all your stockings be filled with car parts and your days be filled with
friends and family.
We live in a great time when different people from different places can be
united in the things they love.
Happy Holidays,
Sean Duggan
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 11:29:00 -0500
From: "Wieland, Elizabeth" <EWieland@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Holiday Greetings
To those near and far that we hold so dear, may your Holidays be filled with
the wonder of the season, enough snow to satisfy those who want it and
enough traction to get out of Dodge if you're planning to. May your trunks
be filled with treasures abounding and your engines roar to life with but
your gentle urging. May your tires all hold air, your lug nuts hold tight
and your tables sag from abundance. Hold those you love closely and may
those who have gone on ahead of us shine down on us from the heavens above.
Tis the season to be jolly so hang a Santa's beard on your 300's grill and
have a wonderful holiday!
The Wielands
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 11:03:37 -0600
From: "Wayne Graefen" <wgraefen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Christmas & Health
Howdy y'all,
Since John Lazenby was kind enough to send out a medical update on me about a week ago, this is to inform you that I have returned home safely with the new, made-by-Mayo Clinic hip repairs. Long story - I've got several months of recovery and rehab ahead of me again and then should be walking.
This all means more computer time to devote to Chrysler 300 Letter Cars, ForwardLook cars and my overall broad interests in this great hobby. I'm glued to the computer but would rather be out in the shop on my creeper!
Blessed Christmas to all of you and thanks for your support. My physical health may have its problems but my spiritual health is great. I pray yours is the same in this holy season.
Wayne Graefen
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 08:55:52 -0800
From: "Ryan Hill" <ryan_hillc300@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Car does not want to start
Ok, I'll throw out a few suggestions. Make sure you have sufficient fuel
pressure, after cranking the engine a few times check your float bowls to
ensure there is fuel inside. If you get a good squirt from the jets it's a
good indication you have fuel(at least enough to start it)
Check your wiring, make sure you have a spark when cranking. An old spark
plug can be usefull for this.(If it is your balast resister as someone else
suggested, you can bypass the balast temporarily) I'm not sure about the
earlier cars but I've found Neutral safety switch wires can be a problem as
well.
Check your compression, ensure you have adequate compression for the engine
to fire up.
I'm assuming the engine ran ok once you managed to get it running? If it did
you can almost rule out a bad timing chain but it doesn't hurt to check it.
A really loose timing chain can cause you real problems and unless the car
has had a replacement recently it never hurts to change them.
Good Luck.
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 11:25:09 -0700
From: "Warren R Anderson" <wranderson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Car does not want to start
As per other posts, the 12v ignition system in a Chrysler does have a
ballast resistor. But, the thing will not keep a car from starting. The
symptom for a bad ballast resistor will be start but no run when key is
returned to run position.
In any case, would suggest checking voltage at coil positive terminal with
engine cranking. Voltage should be very close to battery voltage with engine
cranking. If it much lower there is voltage drop. This will be some where in
the wiring or connections or ignition switch. Ballast resistor is bypassed
at the ignition switch to provide battery voltage to coil at start only.
Voltage to coil is then dropped through ballast resistor when engine is
running.
It is Christmas so, as a gift to all, I will spare you the details of my
first encounter with this item which was very similar to the currently
described problem. Merry Christmas and a happy new year.
Warren Anderson
Sedona,AZ
(cold, snowy no. AZ)
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 13:24:38 -0600
From: Ray Jones <hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: AIr Cleaner 300K
Hi Bruce;
This could happen 2 ways, someone wanted to recycle the crankcase fumes
instead of letting them road draft, OR the engine could have been swapped
with a '65 or later engine. Check the eng numbers, on the top of the block
in front of the left head, and the casting numbers on the side.
Seasons greeting to all, Y'all, from the Arkansas 300 loonies.
Elizabeth Wieland said it best.
Ray Jones
> From: "shu5318 <BruceSchubert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>"
> <BruceSchubert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 04:46:46 -0000
> To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [Chrysler300] AIr Cleaner 300K
>
> Have just bought a 300K that has the single quad but it has a single
> snorkel air cleaner with a conection to the oil breather. I've seen
> pictures of other 300Ks and seem to remember the air cleaner had no
> snorkel. Which is correct? If the correct one is the one I don't
> have does anyone have an idea where a soure for one is.
> Bruce
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 11:34:18 -0800
From: "obiwan10" <obiwan10@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Car does not want to start
Pull a couple of plugs to see if they are fouled. They could have been all fouled if you previously had started the car and not let it warm up enough to open the choke thereby cleaning the plugs off. If you shut it down before the plugs had cleaned up you could merely have a bunch of gas fouled plugs and the engine may be very difficult to start if at all until they are cleaned. If you are getting fuel(again by looking into the carb(s) while hitting the pedal, spark by holding a wire a 1/2 inch from a plug or ground while cranking, the distributor rotor is turning while cranking(kinda rules out a broken timing chain), distributor is tightened down(rules out slipped ignition timing problem) properly, make sure dist cap not cracked and rotor is ok, wires have been known to break within distributor also, then car should start easily unless plugs are badly fouled. Low compression almost will never cause a engine to not start unless plugs are fouling because of bad piston rings and even then should start as unlikely that rings will foul all cylinder plugs. Car if ignition, timing and fuel are present could start and run on 5 or 6 cylinders.
Trying running a wired directly from your battery positive to coil positive to rule out ignition switch or ballast problems. Do not run long like this as you will burn points.
Roger
300 B in Calif
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From: Warren R Anderson
To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; Iamonesurfer@xxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Car does not want to start
As per other posts, the 12v ignition system in a Chrysler does have a
ballast resistor. But, the thing will not keep a car from starting. The
symptom for a bad ballast resistor will be start but no run when key is
returned to run position.
In any case, would suggest checking voltage at coil positive terminal with
engine cranking. Voltage should be very close to battery voltage with engine
cranking. If it much lower there is voltage drop. This will be some where in
the wiring or connections or ignition switch. Ballast resistor is bypassed
at the ignition switch to provide battery voltage to coil at start only.
Voltage to coil is then dropped through ballast resistor when engine is
running.
It is Christmas so, as a gift to all, I will spare you the details of my
first encounter with this item which was very similar to the currently
described problem. Merry Christmas and a happy new year.
Warren Anderson
Sedona,AZ
(cold, snowy no. AZ)
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 16:19:20 -0600
From: Ray Jones <hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Car does not want to start
Hi All;
I would like to add a simple thing that should be done any time you have a
running problem. In the dark, have the engine running and open the hood and
look for fire....sparks along the Ing wires and cap. (Well, you can check
some opf the Hemi's wires this way, take off the wire covers on the VC's.
This can locate a wet weather problem, when the "spark" goes to ground
easier when it's wet. and maybe runs OK when dry.
Hope some of those "Special parts" you need are under the tree tomorrow,
Ray Jones
> From: "obiwan10" <obiwan10@xxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 11:34:18 -0800
> To: <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <Iamonesurfer@xxxxxxx>, "Warren R Anderson"
> <wranderson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Car does not want to start
>
> Pull a couple of plugs to see if they are fouled. They could have been all
> fouled if you previously had started the car and not let it warm up enough to
> open the choke thereby cleaning the plugs off. If you shut it down before the
> plugs had cleaned up you could merely have a bunch of gas fouled plugs and the
> engine may be very difficult to start if at all until they are cleaned. If
> you are getting fuel(again by looking into the carb(s) while hitting the
> pedal, spark by holding a wire a 1/2 inch from a plug or ground while
> cranking, the distributor rotor is turning while cranking(kinda rules out a
> broken timing chain), distributor is tightened down(rules out slipped ignition
> timing problem) properly, make sure dist cap not cracked and rotor is ok,
> wires have been known to break within distributor also, then car should start
> easily unless plugs are badly fouled. Low compression almost will never cause
> a engine to not start unless plugs are fouling because of bad piston rings and
> even then should start as unlikely that rings will foul all cylinder plugs.
> Car if ignition, timing and fuel are present could start and run on 5 or 6
> cylinders.
>
> Trying running a wired directly from your battery positive to coil positive to
> rule out ignition switch or ballast problems. Do not run long like this as
> you will burn points.
>
> Roger
> 300 B in Calif
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Warren R Anderson
> To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; Iamonesurfer@xxxxxxx
> Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 10:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Car does not want to start
>
>
> As per other posts, the 12v ignition system in a Chrysler does have a
> ballast resistor. But, the thing will not keep a car from starting. The
> symptom for a bad ballast resistor will be start but no run when key is
> returned to run position.
>
> In any case, would suggest checking voltage at coil positive terminal with
> engine cranking. Voltage should be very close to battery voltage with engine
> cranking. If it much lower there is voltage drop. This will be some where in
> the wiring or connections or ignition switch. Ballast resistor is bypassed
> at the ignition switch to provide battery voltage to coil at start only.
> Voltage to coil is then dropped through ballast resistor when engine is
> running.
>
> It is Christmas so, as a gift to all, I will spare you the details of my
> first encounter with this item which was very similar to the currently
> described problem. Merry Christmas and a happy new year.
>
> Warren Anderson
> Sedona,AZ
> (cold, snowy no. AZ)
>
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