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There are 22 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: MetalCrafters - reply
From: "Ron Waters" <ronbo97@xxxxxxxxx>
2. re: Metalcrafters and small tailfins
From: ak118@xxxxxxx
3. Swivel Seat Handles
From: sharon stoll <chrybstn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
4. Re: Swivel Seat Handles
From: moparpjf@xxxxxxx
5. Re: re: Metalcrafters and small tailfins
From: dan300f@xxxxxxx
6. 62 H
From: "luther caudle" <three00salot@xxxxxxx>
7. Metalcrafters Rebuttal
From: "Wayne Graefen" <wgraefen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
8. Re: Metalcrafters Rebuttal
From: sherwoodk@xxxxxxx
9. Metalcrafters discussion
From: hmpirish@xxxxxxx
10. 57 speedometer
From: Bill <bleahy@xxxxxxxxxxx>
11. PATCH PANELS OR REPLACEMENT REAR QUARTERS 63 300 J
From: tthall426@xxxxxx
12. RE: re: Metalcrafters and small tailfins
From: "George McKovich" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
13. Automobile Trailer
From: "Rusty and Thelma Roe" <saxblowr@xxxxxxxx>
14. Re: Automobile Trailer
From: "Park Waldrop" <pwald@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
15. Re: Automobile Trailer
From: paul holmgren <paulholm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
16. Re: Metalcrafters discussion
From: "John Baker" <jbaker22@xxxxxxxxxx>
17. Re: Metalcrafters and Desotos
From: cotejohnr@xxxxxxx
18. Re: Metalcrafters Rebuttal
From: "Owen & Jo Grigg" <ram300@xxxxxxxxxx>
19. Re: Automobile Trailer
From: SADuggan@xxxxxxx
20. Re: Automobile Trailer
From: Ray Jones <hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxx>
21. Re: Automobile Trailer
From: Ray Jones <hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxx>
22. Re: MetalCrafters - reply
From: "Johnl" <john@xxxxxxxxx>
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 11:26:56 -0500
From: "Ron Waters" <ronbo97@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: MetalCrafters - reply
> > Perhaps someone on the left coast who lives nearby could stop in for a
> > friendly visit and get a feel for their projection on this panel
project.
I kinda like this idea. Also they could get the name of the new contact
person for the project.
Ron
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 13:19:38 EST
From: ak118@xxxxxxx
Subject: re: Metalcrafters and small tailfins
Hi Everyone,
As a former employee of Gaffoglio Family Metalcrafters, I have been watching
where this discussion has been going in the last day or two. George
McKovich's letter about his 'friend/auto restorer' and 'skeptic' '(who many
of you know)' prompted me to write. If I know this restorer... be careful
who you make your comments to..as they may be published without your consent!
He inferred that Metalcrafters quality would be substandard should the
quarter panels be produced. I can tell you in all honesty that nobody can
produce these parts better than this company. They have the know-how and the
tools to do it (including a two-car-garage-sized press)
For those of you who may not know... Metalcrafters is the company that
builds most, if not all, of Chrysler's concept cars. Each is built in metal,
runs, drives, has a full interior, and each vehicle is nearly fully
functional. 'Flakes' , as the 'skeptical restorer' called them, generally
don't get multi-million dollar car building contracts renewed year after
year. Metalcrafters does work every year for Chrysler and many others --
they are certainly not flakes. As an employee they worked me very hard...
but they also paid me VERY well for that work. The crunch time at
Metalcrafters is from August through the last week in December. During this
time they are finishing the cars for both the L.A. and Detroit auto shows.
Nothing else matters as much as those cars during that time.
The fact that it's hard to get a call back should be understandable to you.
EVERYONE in the Metalcrafters building is focused on finishing the cars. I
doubt they'd stop production on a multi-million dollar group of cars to
fabricate quarter panels for a 57 Chrysler. Look at the big picture and see
how it doesn't make very good business sense for them to focus on 300's at
this time.
My suggestion... be patient, designate one person to contact their office
after the dust settles there. Please keep the bashing to a minimum or
they'll just say no. Do you think their business will want to do work for a
bunch of car guys who doubt their quality or integrity? My best guess for a
great time to call -- The 2nd or 3rd week in January. At that time everyone
will be back from vacation and they may have time for a small project like
this.
Aaron Kahlenberg
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 13:27:17 -0500
From: sharon stoll <chrybstn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Swivel Seat Handles
Hi ,
I found two swivel Seat Handles on Ebay Auction # 1874138968 the
auction ends 12/15 Howard Stoll
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 13:50:42 EST
From: moparpjf@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Swivel Seat Handles
In a message dated 12/08/2002 1:27:23 PM Eastern Standard Time,
chrybstn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
> Hi ,
> I found two swivel Seat Handles on Ebay Auction # 1874138968 the
> auction ends 12/15 Howard Stoll
>
>
Somebody was looking for these, for an E I think. I remember an e-mail
entitled "Help!!!" I have gone back but can't find the sender. If anyone
remembers, you might give him a heads up on this.
Pete Fitch
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 14:19:50 EST
From: dan300f@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: re: Metalcrafters and small tailfins
Hi all:
I fully concur with Aaron Kahlenberg's assessment of Metalcrafters. Years
ago Aaron was able to arrange a tour for a couple of our local clubs of
Metalcrafters facility and all of us were in awe of what we saw. Indeed,
they are no "flakes." I wish I could work there but my retirement is taking
up too much of my time!
Dan Reitz
Northridge, CA
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 16:20:51 -0500
From: "luther caudle" <three00salot@xxxxxxx>
Subject: 62 H
Hi gang,
Thanks for all the help on the H emblems.I now need help finding the oringal type trim clips for the H
Thanks in advance
Luther
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 14:42:45 -0600
From: "Wayne Graefen" <wgraefen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Metalcrafters Rebuttal
Hey guys, do you want repro quarter panels or not for those '57-9 cars?
Metalcrafters is THE PREMIER one-off body builder in the United States. They build impeccable show cars under multimillion dollar contracts day in and day out. Back at the beginning of this project it was my understanding that Chrysler had some left over contracted time with them and it was one of our 300 "insiders" at DCX who pushed through the idea they could make us some panels. This is gifted time from Chrysler and the retail price is also a gift as I know their labor for the professionals they employ is approximately triple to quadruple going rates because of the quality these guys are capable of.
This is the time of year of maximum intensity at Metalcrafters. They are preparing dozens of cars that must be at the North American International Auto Show early in January as well as the Los Angeles Auto Show a week later. The NAIAS is the most important auto show on the planet, they know it, their corporate existence from year to year rides on what they turn out.
Metalcrafters has a ton of reasons to tell us to shove it and among those is probably their general relationship with DCX because DCX is not their biggest contractor. If members of this club take up an email or letter writing or phone calling campaign against Metalcrafters, we will be biting off our nose to spite our face. In other words, we would be incredibly stupid to do so. Aren't you guys the same club that waits sometimes 6 months into multiple years for Gary Goers to get something out to you?
Oh, I'm sure these panels aren't going to arrive at your doorstep perfect. The rusty and bent cars that need the panels aren't dimensionally the same as they were new from the factory either. I know the immaculate black C coupe the panels were crafted from. If you don't like what you get from Metalcrafters, it is probably not their fault and likely is your car's fault plus the fact they have been made to fit 3 years and 8 models of Chryslers and DeSotos.
If this makes any sense to some of you who have no patience and are hot under the collar to weld up a new quarter onto the rest of your car that could probably use 6 months of other work while you wait for the quarters, then cool it, kick back, chill out, go buy your wife a Christmas present instead of on Christmas eve, and generally just plain COOL IT.
If there is anything better than the old car hobby for teaching PATIENCE, I don't know what it is. It is obvious from the last few days e-mails that a whole bunch of us have not begun to learn the lesson yet.
Wayne
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 16:01:51 EST
From: sherwoodk@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Metalcrafters Rebuttal
Wayne:
You couldn't have said it any better relative to Metalcrafters.
My son worked for Metalcrafters for several years before becoming a teacher
and at this time of the year they are overwhelmed with work. 19 and 20 hour
days was commonplace 7 days a week for most of the year. My son worked on
many Chrysler show cars -- always the detail work and some design work. He
also worked on the identical special Rolls Royces they did for the King of
Brunei and, in fact, made the miniature models of the car from scratch, too.
They were not small models but the size of pedal cars, as I remember.
When my son worked there, he loved the work, didn't mind too much the hours
and pay but positively abhorred management...
Sherwood Kahlenberg
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 16:34:33 EST
From: hmpirish@xxxxxxx
Subject: Metalcrafters discussion
Hi Guys, I just got my WPC news and in there is mention of the company and
the fact they are going to do the panels we've been discussing. I addition,
if there is sufficient interest they MAY do the same for 55 and 56 hardtops.
Let us be understanding and give them the "room" to accomplish what they've
promised - I'd like to have the 55/56 panels as a follow on and a good
experience with us will undoubtedly be the deciding factor as whether they
take those on as well ! ! ! All the Best 300ing,
Phil Irish
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 13:35:20 -0800
From: Bill <bleahy@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: 57 speedometer
thanks to all for input on the speedometer dial cleaning and polishing...and
ideas on how to eliminate the rattle after cleaning the gunk out.
my final solution was to go to my local hardware and purchase Elgar Pro
Repair "screen spline" 1/8" by 20'...it just happens to be gray in color and
fits tightly into that little grove...just leave it sticking a little bit
above the edge.
bill of bill's basket case in kennewick, washington
if you can't find it i have enough for about 15 cars that i would mail out
at no cost.
special thanks to the dude in arizona who sent me something to try...it was
just too small and got lost in the grove.
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 17:24:12 EST
From: tthall426@xxxxxx
Subject: PATCH PANELS OR REPLACEMENT REAR QUARTERS 63 300 J
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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 15:26:18 -0700
From: "George McKovich" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: re: Metalcrafters and small tailfins
Aaron....
I think you should double check your facts and assumptions regarding
what I said. I DID NOT mention or refer to any "friend/auto restorer"
and "skeptic" regarding MetalCrafters. The only publishing here without
my consent has been by you.
I understand these people may be very busy. However, I believe it is
totally unacceptable to tell someone you will call them back by the
close of business on a certain date and then not follow through.... I
don't care how busy they are. If they are not going to be doing anything
with these orders until after the first of the year, then they should
instruct their receptionist(s) to inform callers of that fact. Leaving
customers out in the dark without knowing the situation is very poor
business. From my point of view, I have and will use other alternatives
to buying their quarter panels.
George
-----Original Message-----
From: ak118@xxxxxxx [mailto:ak118@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 11:20 AM
To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [Chrysler300] re: Metalcrafters and small tailfins
Hi Everyone,
As a former employee of Gaffoglio Family Metalcrafters, I have been
watching
where this discussion has been going in the last day or two. George
McKovich's letter about his 'friend/auto restorer' and 'skeptic' '(who
many
of you know)' prompted me to write. If I know this restorer... be
careful
who you make your comments to..as they may be published without your
consent!
He inferred that Metalcrafters quality would be substandard should the
quarter panels be produced. I can tell you in all honesty that nobody
can
produce these parts better than this company. They have the know-how
and the
tools to do it (including a two-car-garage-sized press)
For those of you who may not know... Metalcrafters is the company that
builds most, if not all, of Chrysler's concept cars. Each is built in
metal,
runs, drives, has a full interior, and each vehicle is nearly fully
functional. 'Flakes' , as the 'skeptical restorer' called them,
generally
don't get multi-million dollar car building contracts renewed year after
year. Metalcrafters does work every year for Chrysler and many others
--
they are certainly not flakes. As an employee they worked me very
hard...
but they also paid me VERY well for that work. The crunch time at
Metalcrafters is from August through the last week in December. During
this
time they are finishing the cars for both the L.A. and Detroit auto
shows.
Nothing else matters as much as those cars during that time.
The fact that it's hard to get a call back should be understandable to
you.
EVERYONE in the Metalcrafters building is focused on finishing the cars.
I
doubt they'd stop production on a multi-million dollar group of cars to
fabricate quarter panels for a 57 Chrysler. Look at the big picture and
see
how it doesn't make very good business sense for them to focus on 300's
at
this time.
My suggestion... be patient, designate one person to contact their
office
after the dust settles there. Please keep the bashing to a minimum or
they'll just say no. Do you think their business will want to do work
for a
bunch of car guys who doubt their quality or integrity? My best guess
for a
great time to call -- The 2nd or 3rd week in January. At that time
everyone
will be back from vacation and they may have time for a small project
like
this.
Aaron Kahlenberg
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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 14:36:44 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time)
From: "Rusty and Thelma Roe" <saxblowr@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Automobile Trailer
Ok Guys here is one to answer......I am going to buy an open car trailer and need to get your opinions as to what I need.....I have more than a dozen antique cars but I guess the 57 300C would be the longest of the bunch and close to the heaviest....what trailer length would be best? ....wooden deck?.....metal deck?.....dovetail?.....ramps or tilt bed?....I am looking at an all metal 18foot dovetail tandom axle trailer with ramps for about $1900.....thanks for any input you guys can send my way.........Rusty Roe 57 300C in Oregon
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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 16:45:55 -0600
From: "Park Waldrop" <pwald@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Automobile Trailer
My only recommendation would be to equip it with a power winch. I got this
advice from some before buying my enclosed trailer ... wasn't sure I'd need
one but took the advice, and am extremely happy I did. A bit more
problematic with an enclosed rig, as the winch is in the weather, but I'm
sure some of them are made for such cases.
Park Waldrop
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Message: 15
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 18:09:25 -0500
From: paul holmgren <paulholm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Automobile Trailer
Park Waldrop wrote:
>
> My only recommendation would be to equip it with a power winch. I got this
> advice from some before buying my enclosed trailer ... wasn't sure I'd need
> one but took the advice, and am extremely happy I did. A bit more
> problematic with an enclosed rig, as the winch is in the weather, but I'm
> sure some of them are made for such cases.
>
> Park Waldrop
AND from a previous discussion I read, at least 8 ton, the smaller ones
talked about on the other list I read usually didn't hold up according
to the responders.
--
Paul Holmgren
Hoosier Corps #33, L-6
2 57 300-C's in Indy
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Message: 16
Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 18:44:58 -0500
From: "John Baker" <jbaker22@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Metalcrafters discussion
I would buy a couple pairs of the 56 chrys/Des 2dr panels just to save for
later.
John Baker
Malabar Fl.
----- Original Message -----
From: <hmpirish@xxxxxxx>
To: <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 4:34 PM
Subject: [Chrysler300] Metalcrafters discussion
> Hi Guys, I just got my WPC news and in there is mention of the company
and
> the fact they are going to do the panels we've been discussing. I
addition,
> if there is sufficient interest they MAY do the same for 55 and 56
hardtops.
> Let us be understanding and give them the "room" to accomplish what
they've
> promised - I'd like to have the 55/56 panels as a follow on and a good
> experience with us will undoubtedly be the deciding factor as whether they
> take those on as well ! ! ! All the Best 300ing,
> Phil Irish
>
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Message: 17
Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 19:20:58 EST
From: cotejohnr@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Metalcrafters and Desotos
Hi all,
It seems the WPC has announced and now the Desoto Club has also published in
"Desoto Adventures" (that I received last week) the "Now Availability" of the
'57-'59 patch panels.
Dean Mullinax, President of the Nat. Desoto Club, printed all the pertinent
information about the project made possible by the 300 Clud, Int., DC, and
Metalcrafters and that "all inquiries and orders MUST be placed with Mike
Justice, directly."
Dean also gave email addresses and phone numbers to call for Michael Justice.
Dean also goes on to state that he expects that they (patch panels) will be
of good quality knowing the quality demands of the 300 Club International.
(See, the Club has a great reputation)
I do agree that members should excercise patience as Wayne has stated and
that it must be a very busy time for Metalcrafters, but it might be good for
whoever is coordinating the project in the Club (since we're so closely tied
to it being done) to establish another name to contact at Metalcrafters so
that the other Clubs may be able to disseminate new ordering information to
their membership through their magazines and websites.
May I be the first to wish all a Merry Christmas and Happy Holiday Season.
John
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Message: 18
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 15:27:58 +1300
From: "Owen & Jo Grigg" <ram300@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Metalcrafters Rebuttal
" then cool it, kick back, chill out, go buy your wife a Christmas present
instead of on Christmas eve, and generally just plain COOL IT ".
Wayne
My wife's got her heart set on a pair of repro '57 quarter panels for
Christmas, what should I do?
I just know she'd be disappointed if I only gave her clothes, jewels, fowers
etc.
Owen
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Message: 19
Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 21:35:33 EST
From: SADuggan@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Automobile Trailer
Rusty,
I needed a car trailer about 8 months ago to haul around my 1950 GMC 12'
stakebed (the Hidden Valley Ranch truck). I've found that you are going to
want to go with 5000 pound tandem axles. This gives you a weight rating of
10,000 pounds. The higher weight rating make the trailer more stable.
The "off the rack" flatbed trailers tend to be a little cheap. My advice is
to go to a custom trailer builder, so they can look at your application and
give you the proper trailer.
I looked around to buy a trailer but I ended up building my own trailer. I
went without the dovetail for better clearance, just built longer ramps.
Realize on a 18' trailer a 300 would stick out over the back two feet. I
built my trailer 19', max length without getting too heavy. Diamond plate
steel bed, better strength per weight.
I rented a cheap trailer before and had a harrowing drive from L.A. to
Seattle. White knuckles the whole way. I will never do that again.
Never forget you get what you pay for. It's not easy to replace a 300.
Good Luck,
Sean
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Message: 20
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 22:51:41 -0600
From: Ray Jones <hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Automobile Trailer
Like all things in this area, it's very subjective.
I would recomend that you goto H&H Trailers website. www.hhtrailer.com
H & H Trailer Co.
Fax # ??712-589-3200??Phone# 712-589-3100
You can take a tour on like of their trailer building, see haw well they're
made, and gete an idea of what they're about. I don't have one yet, but Dave
Werner does and loves it. Very well built.
Whatever you get, make sure it has brakes on both axles, (locally it adds
$100) and stake pockets, so you can add 2X4 and plywood sides and have a
utility trailer also. Steel or Alum floors with welded in tie downs, are
great, but wood floor will save you some money. They might need replacement
in 8-10 years or so.
H&H will put on Mopar bolt pattern wheels by request, makes it easy to have
mutiple spares!
Good luck, Ray Jones
> From: "Rusty and Thelma Roe" <saxblowr@xxxxxxxx>
> Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 14:36:44 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time)
> To: <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [Chrysler300] Automobile Trailer
>
> Ok Guys here is one to answer......I am going to buy an open car trailer and
> need to get your opinions as to what I need.....I have more than a dozen
> antique cars but I guess the 57 300C would be the longest of the bunch and
> close to the heaviest....what trailer length would be best? ....wooden
> deck?.....metal deck?.....dovetail?.....ramps or tilt bed?....I am looking at
> an all metal 18foot dovetail tandom axle trailer with ramps for about
> $1900.....thanks for any input you guys can send my way.........Rusty Roe 57
> 300C in Oregon
>
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Message: 21
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 23:01:30 -0600
From: Ray Jones <hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Automobile Trailer
Here's a clip from their website, these trailers have a ram jack to tilt the
trailer bed, no ramps needed. It's self closing:
The SpeedLoader© MX Manual Tilt Trailer comes in 4 lengths and can be had
with any GVWR package available for the heavy duty flatbed trailer as well
as nearly any of the options on pages 10 through 14 in this book.
* 8.5x18 SpeedLoader© MX Manual Tilt Trailer $1995. Complete!
* 8.5x20 SpeedLoader© MX Manual Tilt Trailer $2095. Complete!
* 8.5x22 SpeedLoader© MX Manual Tilt Trailer $2295. Complete!
* 8.5x24 SpeedLoader© MX Manual Tilt Trailer $2395. Complete!
Base unit comes with everything listed above! For full commercial Interstate
ICC compliance, simply add $195 full dot compliance package with 7
additional marker lights, an extra brake axle and our complete breakaway
kit. For options refer to pages 10-14 in this book! Prices and
specifications can and WILL change without notice. All pricing is assured
for a period of 10 weeks from date of order ONLY. Due to changing prices in
the raw materials market. All orders extending beyond 10 weeks lead time
could be re-priced at time of invoice.
Check out the site, it's very interesting, Ray
> From: "Rusty and Thelma Roe" <saxblowr@xxxxxxxx>
> Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 14:36:44 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time)
> To: <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [Chrysler300] Automobile Trailer
>
> Ok Guys here is one to answer......I am going to buy an open car trailer and
> need to get your opinions as to what I need.....I have more than a dozen
> antique cars but I guess the 57 300C would be the longest of the bunch and
> close to the heaviest....what trailer length would be best? ....wooden
> deck?.....metal deck?.....dovetail?.....ramps or tilt bed?....I am looking at
> an all metal 18foot dovetail tandom axle trailer with ramps for about
> $1900.....thanks for any input you guys can send my way.........Rusty Roe 57
> 300C in Oregon
>
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Message: 22
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 07:46:34 -0800
From: "Johnl" <john@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: MetalCrafters - reply
Regarding someone stopping by MetalCrafters I must advise all of you that this is an extremely high security area and you will not get past the front desk. These folks have an extensive complex and building proto vehicles lends itself to the security aspect. I would also add that their abilities and workmanship are second to none.
Some may ask how I know this. I live within five miles of MetalCrafters and it was my 300C that was used to pull the molds for this project. I've been through the facility more than once with an escort and have seen what goes on.
My advise is to let the committee handle it and lets not have everyone getting involved and creating unnecessary problems and confusion.
Respectfully submitted,
John Lazenby
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From: "Ron Waters" <ronbo97@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Chrysler 300 Club Listverver" <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 8:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] MetalCrafters - reply
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> > > Perhaps someone on the left coast who lives nearby could stop in for a
> > > friendly visit and get a feel for their projection on this panel
> project.
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> I kinda like this idea. Also they could get the name of the new contact
> person for the project.
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> Ron
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