FW: {Chrysler 300} Re: Drum removal

From: Dan Plotkin [mailto:dplotkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
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To: 'john begian' <r2gthawk@xxxxxxxxx>; 'dave mason' <forwardlook300@xxxxxxxxx>; 'Nick Taylor' <nicksgaragesd@xxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: RE: {Chrysler 300} Re: Drum removal

I will defer to Don Verity, but my understanding of never seize is that it protects against seize, it’s not a lubricant. Even using the stuff the hubs are going to need work to come off. I’ve used it with no problems. And as Don alludes once the rear brakes are good the drums shouldn’t need to come off again in our tenure anyway. If I am wrong, please say so.

Danny Plotkin

From: 'john begian' via Chrysler 300 Club International [mailto:chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, January 3, 2025 1:04 PM
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Subject: Re: {Chrysler 300} Re: Drum removal

I use anti-seize on install, works well

John Begian

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On Fri, Jan 3, 2025 at 1:03 PM, 'dave mason' via Chrysler 300 Club International
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I have done this as well; but just a *very* thin film…
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On Jan 3, 2025, at 12:22, Nick Taylor <nicksgaragesd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I normally put a bit of anti-sieze on the taper of the axle before putting the drum back on. Are other people doing this or something else?

On Fri, Jan 3, 2025 at 9:10 AM ROBERT HAAG <scooter465@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Here is a trick my dad taught me.
If he was going to do a rear brake job he would back off the castle nut one turn
Then he would drive our
62 Newport a couple of days. Always worked no
Puller.
Bob Haag

On Jan 3, 2025, at 8:53 AM, 'James Douglas' via Chrysler 300 Club International <chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

One of the things I have done on these tapered axles is to make up a “reservoir” over the end of the axle and drum using some plastic. I then will it with penetrating fluid and let it sit for a few days. I then use the puller.

In some cases, I tension the puller as tight as it will go and leave it for a day. Sometimes I come out the next morning and it had popped off. Sometimes I have to beat the hell out of it.

Good luck, James
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Subject: Re: {Chrysler 300} Re: Drum removal

the force to move the drum is thousands of pounds to break loose but then it is free, essentially , as shoes are not touching or lightly touching
go ahead . The “love tap “ with a 5 lb hammer after getting tension on it is critical
by adapters you mean shoe cam adjustments ?see Mr Meritt’s site , i wrote up a way to press on and weld a large nut to remains of stripped adjuster to save and free those parts .
have to be careful or weld current destroys ability to turn it .. see write up .
anyone who puts vise grips on that should be relegated to Fords ( laugh)

On Jan 2, 2025, at 10:16 PM, rdr_inc@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:

Here Here! Right on. Great info!

Rick Dutkiewicz

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Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2025 10:13:57 p.m.
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Subject: Re: {Chrysler 300} Re: Drum removal

I was taught years ago by someone that I highly respect to "reverse" the castellated nut and keep it loose then use the puller. This process gives more total protection to the end of the threaded axle.

John Lazenby

On Thursday, January 2, 2025 at 06:39:51 PM PST, Kurt Brueske <kurt.brueske@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Make sure and keep the castellated nut at the end of the axle when you apply the hub puller. This will protect the threads and keep the drum from flying off when it breaks free from the spindle -- assuming it is tapered. I did this recently when removing the rear drums from my '48 DeSoto and the drum literally exploded off the spindle...quite the shock.

Kurt
On Thursday, January 2, 2025 at 5:00:13 PM UTC-6 rdg123 wrote:
Hi all,

Trying to remove rear drums on my 300F. The head on one of the adjusters is stripped and I can't be sure the shoe has been backed off. I tried a pair of vice grips but it still wouldn't move. Should I continue with the hub puller? I don't want to bend anything in there?

Rick Gould
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