Re: [Chrysler300] 62 Sport problem

["John Grady jkg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]" <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

You still walk if it punts .. unlike points . 

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> On 28 Oct 2018, at 11:49 pm, Carl cbilter@xxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300] <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> The problem with the Chrysler electronic ignition is that you have to install a new distributor, and you lose the tach operation (last I knew at least, you can’t get a tach drive version).  It is possible to transplant the new guts into the stock distributor, but it is a fair amount of work, and you still have that ugly non-stock control module somewhere on the fender or firewall.  
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> A Pertronix electronic ignition (model 1382 for dual point distributors), on the other hand, fits entirely in the stock distributor, and the only obvious non-stock component is the extra wire to the coil and the wire that supplies power.   I’ve had flawless operation from mine in the J for 8 years so far.   Contrary to urban legend, it works just fine with a stock ballast resistor and stock coil.   Yes it is true that electronic components can fail without warning, but so can just about anything else on a 50+ year old car.    Modern vehicles are entirely electronically managed, and most folks don’t fret about that.  Electronic ignition is a proven technology with 46 years of history at Chrysler; not exactly new-fangled.
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> By the way, those who couldn’t get a Pertronix to work:  usually it’s what’s called “user error” not a problem with the components.  If you take the time to figure out how the thing works (engineering hat on) you can get it to work.  Took me a couple tries on the J to get everything aligned correctly, but then it worked like a champ.  No more burned points, varying dwell, frayed wires, or cheap Chinese capacitor!
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> Carl B.
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> From: Noel Hastalis cpaviper@xxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]
> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2018 10:02 PM
> To: scooter465@xxxxxxx
> Cc: Rich Barber; doug warrener; Chrysler300ClubInternational
> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] 62 Sport problem
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> Bob,
> I guess I agree. John Begian recently discussed this same mod with me. I’ve just been reluctant to move away from the stock setup. 
> Noel 
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> On Oct 28, 2018, at 9:53 PM, scooter465@xxxxxxx wrote:
> Time for the chrysler electronic ignition kit. When Chrysler brought this out in 1972 it was the greatest thing sense sliced bread. No more points or condenser problems..
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> Bob Haag
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> On Oct 28, 2018, at 10:45 PM, Noel Hastalis cpaviper@xxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300] <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> I’ll attest to that! The wire connecting the dual points. Once was on my way home to Chicago from our Chattanooga Meet a few years ago. Midday northbound on I-65, 90+ degree heat, long construction zone backup - fortunately did a u-turn on the interstate and exited before it totally died. A couple good samaritans stopped and helped - and we finally figured it out after about 3 frustrating hours and phone calls to a couple Club members. Happened again at our 2017 Geneva, NY Meet as I pulled into the parking area when we were to tour Legendary Interiors. At least 6 Club members, led by pit boss John Grady, huddled over the car and installed a new wire I had in the trunk. This also happened near my home. 
> My only comment re this little wire disconnecting is that, when the motor starts missing and losing power, it dies and won’t restart. 
> Noel 
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> On Oct 28, 2018, at 8:49 PM, 'Rich Barber' c300@xxxxxxx [Chrysler300] <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> I once tried, unsuccessfully, to assist a fellow 300’er with intermittent misfiring 413 that eventually quit altogether.  Eventually, it was found to be a looseness at one of the tiny screws or hex nuts connecting the two point sets.  I understand that little wire can also fail—totally or partially.  Can be hard to diagnose.  Head-slapper when found.  Everything can fail—capacitors, wiring, coil, dropping resistor and any connection—including the bulkhead connector.  Fire must come from the ignition switch..
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> Rich Barber
> Brentwood, CA-Endless summer here.
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> From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of doug warrener 2HsandaHeritage@xxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]
> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2018 1:36 PM
> To: Chrysler300 <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [Chrysler300] 62 Sport problem
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> Hi Group,
> I need some expert input on my 62 sport conv misfiring or "stumbling". The car has the standard 413 and I have added the dual AFB's and a dual point distributor.
> One year ago driving to and from the Ironstone Concours in Murphys, CA ( about 80 miles away) I experienced severe  misfiring.
> Pulled all the plugs and found #2, #6 & #7 fouled with carbon deposits ( #2 by far the worst).
> Replaced the plugs and thought the problem was solved. This year, drove to local shows and around my neighborhood with no problems.
> The trip to the Ironstone Concours this year resulted in the same misfiring  problem.
> Pulled all the plugs and only #2 had any carbon deposits.
> Checked the compression and all cylinders at 150 +/-.
> Checked and set point gaps, replaced the wire to #2 plug.
> The engine runs ok with no load, but still misfires or "stumbles under load and at high speed.
> The new plugs that I installed last year are Autolite A42B's which I believe are correct. However they may be 30years old or older. The cap and rotor are only a year or two old.
> Could a defective coil cause the problem?
> Thanks,
> Doug Warrener 
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