Re: [Chrysler300] Chrysler 300H idle speed

["Mark Souders MRS954@xxxxxxx [Chrysler300]" <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

That's it !!  Where did you find it? I know a place in Delaware had them, a place called Ballek's, but he is no longer in business. I was going to make a pad for mine, using fiberglass insulation and heavy duty aluminum foil, but if these are available commercially, I'd rather buy one. I have the cover plate that attaches over the front of the intake gasket.
 
Mark
 
 
 
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From: Michael Moore <mmoore8425@xxxxxxx>
To: Mark Souders <mrs954@xxxxxxx>
Cc: ronbo97 <ronbo97@xxxxxxxxxxx>; chrysler300 <chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Mon, Oct 26, 2015 2:55 pm
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Chrysler 300H idle speed


Mark,


Check this out: A cracked intake manifold on the bottom side could explain it.  
Thanks, Mike



Intake Manifold Silencer Insulation Kit
(Chrysler, Dodge, Plymouth)


 This Intake Manifold Insulation was used all through the 1960s, and into the 1970s on big blocks, except hemi. It's not likely to 
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 Its purpose was listed in parts catalogs as "Valve Tappet Noise Reduction Silencer Package." Some say its real purpose was to
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 Those who have observed many original engines have seen its two pieces tucked under the intake manifold.
 It is POSSIBLE to install these exactly-reproduced pieces after your manifold is already in place, but it's much easier to do like 


the factory did. The pieces were placed on the pan, large piece in front, small piece in rear, then the manifold was bolted in. These pieces should have engine paint overspray.
 These silencers are a heavy aluminum foil filled with a fiberglass insulation pad. The foil is correct in size and shape. The pads are a pair that don't look like each other, nor did the originals. The edges of the pads are sealed correctly. Retainer not included.


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On Oct 26, 2015, at 11:23 AM, Mark Souders <mrs954@xxxxxxx> wrote:


Mike,
That intake manifold gasket is a one-piece metal pan. Ideally, when you remove the intake you should replace that metal gasket because the area around each runner crushes when you torque down the bolts. Could be that it's leaking and drawing in your carb cleaner and affecting the RPM or burn. On a side note, there should also be an insulation pad tucked in between the intake and the gasket pan, to reduce the valve noise. I know, because mine is missing, too. 
 
Mark
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Moore mmoore8425@xxxxxxx [Chrysler300] <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Ron Waters <ronbo97@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: chrysler300 <chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Mon, Oct 26, 2015 2:12 pm
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Chrysler 300H idle speed




Hey Ron,
I just sprayed  some carb cleaner around the intake manifold with engine idling ca 750-800 (still cold). 
I had not connected the vacuum gauge.  On the 300H 2x4 intake manifold, there is an area midway along the sides of the manifold which usually has the paint burned off and is where there is an opening through the manifolds to the valley below.  When I sprayed that area, on both sides, the engine “changed” . It seemed to run smoother but at a lower rpm (??). I thinks its odd that it’s where that opening in the manifold is on both sides so carb cleaner is going into the valley. I think SOMETHING there is leaking but don’t know what. That manifold was removed last in 1986 in Ray Dorn’s back yard in Portland while I was on my way back from a meet in Victoria. I had a bad case of valve recession and had to have hardened seats put in on the road. I did not have a torque wrench so I just tightened the dickens out of the screws . I wonder if the gaskets have just burned.
Thanks, 


Mike Moore
300H     


ps. I think my failing starter made its last start! (Maybe)




On Oct 26, 2015, at 4:12 AM, 'Ron Waters' ronbo97@xxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300] <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


 
    

Mike -
 
How are you testing for vacuum leaks ? My method is to hook up a vacuum gauge and get a reading. Then with the gauge still connected, spray carb cleaner at the base of the carb and around the edge of the intake. If the numbers change significantly, you've found the problem.
 
Ron
  
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From:   Michael Moore   
  
To: kboonstra@xxxxxxxxxxxx 
  
Cc: Gary Nelson ; mgoodknight@xxxxxxxx ; Ron Waters ;   chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx   
  
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 7:02   AM
  
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Chrysler 300H   idle speed
  


Thanks Keith for your input. I am not at all convinced I have   all the vacuum leaks identified and fixed. I reused  my existing base   flanges gaskets with sealant added but ordered a new set of gaskets. I need a   new phenolic spacer but have been unable to find one yet on line. I am also   concerned that it may be the intake manifold to block leaking. Meanwhile, the   starter began to fail so I have to replace it. My plan now is to ship the dis   back to Philbin and ask Mark to check it for stability because the timing does   move around a bit and I should have realized that would cause the hunting. I   need to do that to scratch it off my list if nothing else.  I have also   ordered a new set of ignition cables, and I do not think its those either.  

  
If I have to take the intake manifold off, this is probably the time to   replace the camshaft with the  stock camshaft (-although as I write that   I ask myself “What does that disassembly have to do with replacing the   camshaft?”-probably very little as the tasks are pretty much unrelated I   think). 
  
Best, Mike Moore
  
300H Morgan Hill, Ca
  


  
  
  
On Oct 25, 2015, at 9:15 PM, Keith Boonstra <kboonstra.zeegroup@xxxxxxxxx>   wrote:

  
  
Mike,  

  
I suppose it could always turn out to be a distributor issue, but I'm   putting my money on your finding yet one more vacuum leak you haven't plugged.   Your symptoms sure sound similar to the challenging ones I had on a Quadrajet   GM car until our carb guru Jim McGowan at the Quad Shop found vac leaks in my   carburetor. Are you pretty sure everything is tight now in the intake   area?
  


  
Keith Boonstra
  

  
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 6:01 PM, Michael Moore mmoore8425@xxxxxxx [Chrysler300] <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
  
    
      
    
    
Philbin is terrific to deal with. I am going to do the check idle timing     as Marshall suggested and confirm it varies, then call Mark about sending it     back for a check .
    
Best, Mike Moore
    
300H
    
    
On Oct 25, 2015, at 11:23 AM, Gary Nelson <gnelson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

    
    
    
    
    
I highly recommend any old distributor with unknown history, MUST be     rebuilt and setup on a dist. machine. I highly recommend the Philbin Group     in Portland OR, 1-800-869-7301, talk to Mark. If I remember correctly, The     charge for basic rebuild was $75. Also, they can rebuild or replace vacuum     advance.  I installed and recommend electronic ignition.
    
Note: with electronic ignition you must pay special attention to the     voltage out put at the resistor. To high and you will fry the electronic     component.  I may mention Philbin is fast and courteous. I am sure     there are many qualified to do rebuilds. Any of them are UPS away.
    
 
    
Happy Sunday,
    
 
    
Gary Nelson
    
AKA, The Parts Doc
    
 
    
 
    
    
    
 
    
    
From: mailto:Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2015 10:10 AM
    
To: mmoore8425@xxxxxxx 
    
Cc: ronbo97@xxxxxxxxxxx ; chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Chrysler 300H idle     speed

    
 
    
      
    


    
Michael,
    
A "hunting" condition at any idle speed can be caused by a defect in     the centrifugal spark advance mechanism in the distributor, usually a weak     (stretched)  or broken spring.  Don't overlook that as a     possibility after checking more obvious things that are easier to get     to.
    
---------Marshall Goodknight
    


---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Michael Moore     mmoore8425@xxxxxxx     [Chrysler300]" <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Ron Waters     <ronbo97@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300]     Chrysler 300H idle speed
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 10:04:51 -0700

    

 
    
    
Yes, it idles especially rough the lower it goes. It also seems to     “hunt” between 500 and 600.
    
I discovered a couple of vacuum leaks yesterday and thought I had fixed     them by removing the base gaskets from the carburetors, cleaning them, and     forming a very small (cross section-like a pencil lid) of form-a     -gasket  on all 8  surface and reassembled them. It’s hard to     believe I still have a vacuum leak but certainly possible. There was also an     old smog kit tap into the intake manifold I resealed.     
Thanks, MIke Moore 300H
    
      
    
    
 
    
    
On Oct 24, 2015, at 9:41 AM, 'Ron Waters' ronbo97@xxxxxxxxxxx     [Chrysler300] <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
    
 
    
    
      
    

    
Not sure what you mean by 'marginal'.     Does the car run rough and act like it's gonna stall ? If so, I would attach     a vacuum gauge to the intake and see what's going on. Problem is either a     vacuum leak, or something is out of whack in your carbs. It's not Ethanol     gas.
    
 
    
Ron
    
      
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From:       mailto:mmoore8425@xxxxxxx [Chrysler300]
      
To: Mike Moore
      
Cc: chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
      
Sent: Saturday, October 24,       2015 12:30 PM
      
Subject: [Chrysler300]       Chrysler 300H idle speed
      
 
      
What idle speed are the 300H folks setting? Although my manual says       650, it sure is marginal at that speed. 800 feels better, but I don’t       understand what causes the difference. Ethanol?  
      
 
      
Thanks, 
      
Mike Moore
      
300H
      
 
      
 
      
 
      
 
      
 
      
      
On Oct 24, 2015, at 7:49 AM, Robert Augliera raugliera@xxxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300] <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
      
 
      
      
        
      
 
      
      
Does anyone have tips on replacing a windshield on a       61 Chrysler. Lots of chrome to remove.
      
Thanks
      
Rob
      
 


      
 
      
 
    
 




    

 


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