On Oct 7, 2015, at 1:13 PM, Michael Moore <mmoore8425@xxxxxxx> wrote:Mark,I am also interested in this issue. I am wondering why can’t we test pump fuel delivery by pumping gasoline from the fuel pump into a container and measure the volume over time?Do we know how much gasoline that pump should deliver in say, 30 seconds? I can imagine doing that would be an easier testThanks, Mike MooreOn Oct 7, 2015, at 10:57 AM, Mark Miller mark@xxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300] <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:First, many thanks for all of the advice I received last week on this problem!Okay, still having some problems with fuel delivery on our 300K.Here is a quick rundown on what we have had done. Carb was cleaned and fitted with a new carb kit. Floats were set at 23/32 spec?Items replaced: Fuel pump, fuel pump push rod, fuel filter and all rubber fuel lines.Fuel tank was removed and sending unit inspected. Blew out fuel lines.After all of this we still are starving for fuel when the 4barrel kicks in. Also a little harder to start and (at times) some throttle hesitation on normal acceleration.One question the mechanic had was the engine rebuilt with bored cylinders etc and needs a higher CFM carb. I do not have any history on the engine other then it has been rebuilt.Any help will be much appreciated! Mark
Mark G. Miller, General ManagerArthur L. Davis Publishing Agency, Inc.ph. 800-626-4081 ext. 1303 cell 319-240-8083f. 319-277-4055Let's assume the problem is not with the carb.There are 3 pieces of "rubber" fuel line in the system.If they are old, they need to be replaced toensure you aren't drawing air into the system through anage crack in the old hose, or perhaps a blockage in the hose.One is at the fuel tank, connects the sender to the pipe.One is in the area of the front passenger foot well, connectsthe pipe to the next pipe.The other is from that pipe to the fuel pump inlet.It is a pretty easy job to replace these pieces with new line.I think the diameter is 5/16".It could be the problem is with the fuel sock on the sending unit. Ifthe tank has rust in it, the sock will plug. While it isn't a terrible job toget the sending unit out, it takes a while.If you suspect the sock, but would rather not get into the sending unit,you could try running the car from an aux fuel tank. Run a longpiece of fuel hose from the fuel pump inlet to an aux tank whichyou could place in the pass front seat. Have someone hold the aux tankso you don't get spills. If the carb performs off the aux tank system, youknow where your fuel restriction is (or isn't).On Oct 1, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Greg <picgrego@xxxxxxx> wrote:Sounds like your floats are set to low.
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On Oct 1, 2015, at 11:25 AM, "'Mark Souders' MRS954@xxxxxxx [Chrysler300]" <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Mark,If I had to guess, and based on past experience, I’d say your fuel pump push rod is worn, and can’t push the fuel pump arm enough to feed ample gas to the carb. Ask me how I know this.Happy Moparing,MarkFrom: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark Miller mark@xxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2015 8:29 AM
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Subject: [Chrysler300] Carter Carb 300K Problems
Hi, I have a new to me 1964 300K with the single Carter 3614S 4 barrel carb. The carb is starving for fuel when I kick in the seconda ry. I just had the fuel system checked out and there are no kinks, fuel filter is new, fuel pump has good pressure and had the carb rebuilt with a new kit and the carb tests fine. The secondary kicks in but the car surges as it starves for fuel. Under brisk but normal acceleration the engine runs fine. Any suggestions would be much appreciated! Thanks Mark
Mark G. Miller, General ManagerArthur L. Davis Publishing Agency, Inc.ph. 800-626-4081 ext. 1303 cell 319-240-8083f. 319-277-4055
On Oct 7, 2015, at 1:13 PM, Michael Moore <mmoore8425@xxxxxxx> wrote:Mark,I am also interested in this issue. I am wondering why can’t we test pump fuel delivery by pumping gasoline from the fuel pump into a container and measure the volume over time?Do we know how much gasoline that pump should deliver in say, 30 seconds? I can imagine doing that would be an easier testThanks, Mike MooreOn Oct 7, 2015, at 10:57 AM, Mark Miller mark@xxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300] <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:First, many thanks for all of the advice I received last week on this problem!Okay, still having some problems with fuel delivery on our 300K.Here is a quick rundown on what we have had done. Carb was cleaned and fitted with a new carb kit. Floats were set at 23/32 spec?Items replaced: Fuel pump, fuel pump push rod, fuel filter and all rubber fuel lines.Fuel tank was removed and sending unit inspected. Blew out fuel lines.After all of this we still are starving for fuel when the 4barrel kicks in. Also a little harder to start and (at times) some throttle hesitation on normal acceleration.One question the mechanic had was the engine rebuilt with bored cylinders etc and needs a higher CFM carb. I do not have any history on the engine other then it has been rebuilt.Any help will be much appreciated! Mark
Mark G. Miller, General ManagerArthur L. Davis Publishing Agency, Inc.ph. 800-626-4081 ext. 1303 cell 319-240-8083f. 319-277-4055Let's assume the problem is not with the carb.There are 3 pieces of "rubber" fuel line in the system.If they are old, they need to be replaced toensure you aren't drawing air into the system through anage crack in the old hose, or perhaps a blockage in the hose.One is at the fuel tank, connects the sender to the pipe.One is in the area of the front passenger foot well, connectsthe pipe to the next pipe.The other is from that pipe to the fuel pump inlet.It is a pretty easy job to replace these pieces with new line.I think the diameter is 5/16".It could be the problem is with the fuel sock on the sending unit. Ifthe tank has rust in it, the sock will plug. While it isn't a terrible job toget the sending unit out, it takes a while.If you suspect the sock, but would rather not get into the sending unit,you could try running the car from an aux fuel tank. Run a longpiece of fuel hose from the fuel pump inlet to an aux tank whichyou could place in the pass front seat. Have someone hold the aux tankso you don't get spills. If the carb performs off the aux tank system, youknow where your fuel restriction is (or isn't).On Oct 1, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Greg <picgrego@xxxxxxx> wrote:Sounds like your floats are set to low.
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 1, 2015, at 11:25 AM, "'Mark Souders' MRS954@xxxxxxx [Chrysler300]" <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Mark,If I had to guess, and based on past experience, I’d say your fuel pump push rod is worn, and can’t push the fuel pump arm enough to feed ample gas to the carb. Ask me how I know this.Happy Moparing,MarkFrom: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark Miller mark@xxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2015 8:29 AM
To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [Chrysler300] Carter Carb 300K Problems
Hi, I have a new to me 1964 300K with the single Carter 3614S 4 barrel carb. The carb is starving for fuel when I kick in the seconda ry. I just had the fuel system checked out and there are no kinks, fuel filter is new, fuel pump has good pressure and had the carb rebuilt with a new kit and the carb tests fine. The secondary kicks in but the car surges as it starves for fuel. Under brisk but normal acceleration the engine runs fine. Any suggestions would be much appreciated! Thanks Mark
Mark G. Miller, General ManagerArthur L. Davis Publishing Agency, Inc.ph. 800-626-4081 ext. 1303 cell 319-240-8083f. 319-277-4055
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