If you Google “1973 Mercedes Benz Byzantine Gold”, you can get color pictures of a few cars with that color paint—albeit 40 years old. Google images works best. Do we have any sense of agreement that a color that works for 1955 air cleaners will also be acceptable on air cleaners for all years up through 1964 ram-engined cars? This outfit popped up on the Google search, indicates they sell the color in rattle cans and displays an example: http://www.paintscratch.com/touch_up_paint/Mercedes-Benz/1973-Mercedes-Benz-All-Models-Byzantine-Gold-Metallic-Clearcoat-DB-422.html or: http://tinyurl.com/c6b68bp Rich Barber (Golden Anniversary this year—not Byzantine!) Brentwood, CA From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 2HsandaHeritage@xxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 8:30 AM To: Henry Schleimer Cc: chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Air cleaner/valve cover paint color codes Henry, Thanks for the information. The paint on the 1973 Mercedes Benz in Byzantine Gold looks very close to the original 300H air cleaner color. I may give it a try. Doug Warrener ----- Original Message ----- From: "Henry Schleimer" <henry.schleimer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:henry.schleimer%40optusnet.com.au> > To: chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 6:43:29 AM Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] Air cleaner/valve cover paint color codes A couple of years ago when I had my air cleaners and covers painted, advice from some club members was to use Mercedes Benz Byzantine Gold colour from the 1970's. I'm surprised no one has mentioned this in this (and other) threads. Did that and they look terrific. My car isn't going in a museum so close is good enough for me. It isn't a bright gold - which is good. Here is a link to an advertised car that is pretty much how it turned out. http://bringatrailer.com/2011/03/24/bat-exclusive-1973-mercedes-benz-450se/ This may suit others who just want to tell their painter a known colour. Might be even able to get it in a rattle can. Regards Henry From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Ray Melton Sent: Friday, 19 April 2013 6:14 AM To: chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: [Chrysler300] Air cleaner/valve cover paint color codes Hello All - I recently had the air cleaners and valve covers for my 1957 Chrysler 300C repainted in what I believe to be the correct shade and gloss level as originally supplied. On the back side of the oval ends of the air cleaner housings, I found what I am certain was the original Chrysler color, untouched by previous owners who had painted the exterior only. I had a local paint and body shop match the old paint color by trial and error until I was completely satisfied with the color - when the custom mix was sprayed right on top of a masked portion of the original paint, I could hardly see the transition. The parts were painted with a urethane primer, sanded, then two coats of the urethane color base coat, followed by a clear coat with approximately 50% flattening agent to give a satin gloss level. The final outcome was a tint slightly more silvery and less reddish-gold than the Plasti-kote #452 that had previously been applied, and with a more subtle satin gloss, rather than a too-bright high-gloss. However, since the color matching was a multi-step trial-and-error process (add a little green and silver here, take out some red there, add more black, etc.) there was not an easy way for the painter to replicate the color for future applications, either by myself or someone else. So, I took the finished pieces to my local paint specialty shop and had them analyze the color using a special hand-held electronic color matching device. In less than five minutes, they were able to come up with the formula for tinting, and I thought I would share that with other interested members. The starting point for the color base coat was one pint DuPont Chromabase clear. I don't know what all the numbers and letters mean, but your own paint specialty person will! Also note that a urethane-compatible primer must be applied before the color coat. 259663 K CC: M CHROMABASE BC Alt: (EUR) Daewoo - 67U Mix size: 16.0 oz. (pint) Tinting Guide: Formula #259663 882J LS yelo oxide 27.1 (I was told this means YELLOW) 811J Med aluminum 45.4 891J Transox Red 62.1 819J Fine bright aluminum 69.8 806J HS Black 75.5 833J Green Gold 79.0 1005S Gold Pearl 89.6 1009S Super Green PL 95.2 (I was told the "PL" means PEARL) 150K B/C Balancer 317.1 175K Binder 444.5 The top coat was DuPont Chromabase clear, with ~50% flattening agent to yield a satin gloss level. Not being an automotive painter myself, I was shocked at the price for this base coat/clear coat paint: the base coat alone was $112 for one pint, plus a few bucks more for the activator! On the other hand, the guy who painted my parts mixed up only 8 ounces of color base coat, and there was still some left over after applying two coats of color, so that would be only ~$56.00 for a half-pint of the color coat. I didn't ask about the cost for the clear top coat, but it will be considerably less. I had the parts stripped and bead-blasted by another place ($55.00 - and careful NOT to strip the inner surfaces of the oval air cleaner end pieces to preserve for subsequent color-matching!) before taking them to the automotive body/paint shop -- the final charge for priming, sanding and painting the two air cleaner housings and both valve covers was $280.00. Note: I've had no need to try out this formula myself, since my parts are already painted, but if you decide to go with the formula above, you might want to do a bit of custom color-matching yourself: do a test shot on a few square inches of a smooth metal surface (tin can lid?) and see how you like it, then add/subtract tint components to fine-tune to your personal preference. Hope this helps some of you out there, so you won't have to go through the somewhat tedious trial-and-error approach that I did. Ray Melton Las Cruces, NM 1957 Chrysler 300C convertible white/Gauguin 3N572517 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ To send a message to this group, send an email to: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx or go to http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/join and select the "Leave Group" button For list server instructions, go to http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm For archives go to http://www.forwardlook.net/300-archive/search.htm#querylangYahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/join (Yahoo! 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