Re: [Chrysler300] Member with an overheating problem with his K

[Ray Jones <1970hurst@xxxxxxxxx>]

My son told me to get one since you can check individual cylinder temps and
find a miss.
The Harbor Freight one tops out @ 500°, so once the engine is normally hot
you can't check at the exhaust port on the manifold, but you can on the
intake side. You can also check Rad hoses for flow, the Radiator, exhaust
pipes @ the back to see if both sides are about the same temp, tires while
on the road, the list goes on. Also good around the house looking for air
leaks, works well on windy days around windows and doors. Check how hot the
air is at each register.

I bought a Dodge Ram truck that had been sitting for 8 years. After
cleaning the tank and replacing the internal fuel pump, it started in a few
minutes.
Ran rough, but started smoothing out after a few minutes. We found the
right side was working well but the left side was much cooler, so not
firing much.
By the time we were done playing, it was all smooth and equal temps.

Under $30.. much less on sale. A must have for your tool box.
Ray in Sunny 65° Mena, AR


On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 4:39 PM, David Schwandt
<finsruskw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

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> Wife??
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> Sorry, couldn't resist!!!LOL
>
> Dave Schwandt
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Bob Jasinski
> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 2:01 PM
> To: chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <%26%2339%3Bchrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>Club'
> Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] Member with an overheating problem with his K
>
> This is a prime example of why you should buy an inexpensive infrared
> temperature gun. Harbor Freight sells them for about $30. I bought one and
> use it for many more things than I would have thought. I wouldn't be
> without it. You can tell the temp of any part of your engine, house, pool,
> deck, oil in the deep fryer turkey pot etc.
>
> Bob J
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Michael Moore
> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 11:45 AM
> To: David Schwandt
> Cc: 'Keith Boonstra'; chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Club
> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Member with an overheating problem with his K
>
> After my 300H engine was rebuilt, and I drove it back from Illinois to
> California, it ran very hot.
>
> I had a very expensive radiator core installed without result.
>
> That was followed by new water pump, shroud, fan blade, clutch, many tests
> (pressure etc,) but nothing solved it. Then one day while I was running the
> car in my garage and setting the carbs, it dawned on-that engine was just
> not hot! I checked the temp gauge, and it said very hot. As usual, whenever
> the temp was up, the oil pressure would drop . Someone suggested I replace
> the instrument voltage regulator. Once i did that, the temp came down and
> the oil pressure went up. I had been fixing a non-problem-or more
> correctly,
> the wrong problem!
> Mike Moore
>
> On Mar 27, 2013, at 10:28 AM, "David Schwandt" <finsruskw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> wrote:
>
> Kieth,
>
> He's working on a non-A/C car and more than likely don't have a fan clutch.
> Just bolted up solid.
> That being said, a fan clutch and shroud May aid somewhat but the
> underlying
> o/heating problem will still exist.
> More than likely stat, plugged water passages and or water pump problems.
> If
> this is in an original engine to the car and has never been opened up I'll
> bet all the above will prove to be the cause of the problem.
> I have ran 63-64 Chryslers w/big blocks and have never had an O/heating
> problem but these were fresh engine cars also.
> A thermal fan clutch will aid also in MPG.
>
> Dave Schwandt
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Keith Boonstra
> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 10:36 AM
> To: David Schwandt
> Cc: robert554@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; 'Carlton
> Schroeder'; 'Rich Barber'
> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Member with an overheating problem with his K
>
> The bane of many a cooling system - and seldom addressed while looking
> everywhere else for a problem source - is the fan clutch. When new, the
> non-thermally activated type of clutch may spin the fan at something like
> 30% of water pump speed, but when they wear out they may spin at half that
> speed without it being apparent. They don't last forever.
> Replacing it with a thermal one is the best way to go, but at least a new
> non-thermal one would be a smart move. Problem is you will need a bit of
> luck finding an NORS one.
>
> I made some of these clutches up some time back, and I could think about
> doing another batch of them. The ones I made were thermally activated and
> bring the speed up to something like 65% when the coolant is hot.
> As I recall they ran about $125. Frankly I'm really not looking forward to
> adding something more to my agenda, but I would rather not hear of cars not
> able to be driven for lack of a fan clutch.
>
> Is there further interest at this time?
>
> Keith Boonstra
>
> -
> On 3/27/2013 10:48 AM, David Schwandt wrote:
> >
> > Sounds like it's time for a complete cooling system rehab.
> > If the system has not been serviced in a while I'd suggest Flush/fill
> > stat and hoses for starters.
> > And also double check temp sender and guage w/a infrared thermometer
> > to be sure they are registering correctly.
> > I may be wrong here but I would think a non operating heat riser in
> > the stuck closed position my play a part in overheating.
> >
> > Dave Schwandt
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> > [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of
> > robert554@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:robert554%40centurytel.net>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 9:40 AM
> > To: chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>; 'Carlton Schroeder'; Rich
> > Barber
> > Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] Member with an overheating problem with his
> > K
> >
> > thank you rich barber for adding the word hose......... i had this
> > problem years ago on my stock car . took an old mechanic to figure it
> > out, he knew right off the bat what it was ... i have always listened
> > to the old guys .. there the ones that know the most... if they dont
> > pass the knowledge down we tend to struggle.... bob hayen
> >
> > Quoting Rich Barber :
> >
> > Good point, but needs the word "hose" added between "radiator" and
> > "does". As shown below.
> >
> > From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of
> > robert554@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:robert554%40centurytel.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 7:16 PM
> > To: chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>; Carlton Schroeder
>
> > Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Member with an overheating problem with his
> > K
> >
> > if the bottom radiator HOSE does not have a spring in it this can
> > cause problems . sometimes the spring will rust a way and the bottom
> > hose will suck shut when the engine warms up .. very easy to check
> > this first .... bob hayen 406 752 5152
> >
> > Quoting Carlton Schroeder :
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Chuck Carlino, a current Club member from O'Fallon, MO has an
> > overheating problem with his non-AC K. He said it has always been a
> > problem but hopes to correct / help it with a fan shroud (from an AC
> > car), if he could find one. Chuck thought a 63 shroud would also fit.
> >
> > Chuck doesn't have email so if you could call him at 636-281-1849 that
> > would be a big help. Otherwise you could email me and I will let him
> > know.
> >
> > Chuck may be able to attend the Spring meet but his wife is ill so he
> > is uncertain if that will work out.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Carlton Schroeder
> >
> > Eagle River (2 ft of snow on the ground), WI
> >
> > 715-272-1837
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