Re: [Chrysler300] Chrysler power steering box

[Keith Boonstra <kboonstra@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Afraid not.  It slowly oozes out of the joint between the worm and gear 
housings.

Keith

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On 3/3/2013 9:00 AM, David Schwandt wrote:
>
> Maybe it's just OVERFILLED??
>
> Dave Schwandt
> Looking for another 8" here in the next 2 days
> More time to play in the snow w/my 70's vintage Cub Cadets!!
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Behalf Of Keith Boonstra
> Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 11:07 PM
> To: Bob Jasinski
> Cc: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Chrysler power steering box
>
> AHA! I found the service manual on our Club website and "there _is no
> hydraulic connection_ between the worm and gear housings". The worm 
> housing
> _does_ have its own separate oil reserve, and that oil level is 
> supposed to
> be maintained to the level of the filler plug on the housing with 5W20 oil
> or Type A fluid when the box is in the installed position. I would assume
> that this section is not pressurized - unlike the gear housing.
>
> That must mean that they used a non-red oil in the worm housing when
> rebuilding it, and that is what I have running down the gear housing and
> dripping off the drag link - unpressurized basic engine oil.
>
> I think I may just try something. I have had terrific results using Lucas
> brand PS leak stopper, so maybe I will top the level off in the worm 
> housing
> with that and hope the dripping stops. Then if it still leaks we can move
> forward with the next drastic step of removing the whole box for repair.
> But at least I now know that there is a filler plug I was unaware of 
> where I
> can see to it that the worm section stays properly lubricated.
>
> Anybody have an argument with that logic?
>
> Keith Boonstra
>
> -
> On 3/2/2013 7:18 PM, Bob Jasinski wrote:
> >
> > Keith,
> >
> > Just out of curiosity, how could a power steering box leak gear oil,
> > not power steering fluid?Where is gear oil used in a 300C other than
> > the differential or a manual trans or manual steering box (if so
> > equipped)? You have power steering in your C, right?
> >
> > Bob J
> >
> > *From:*Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> <mailto:%2AChrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>] *On Behalf Of *Keith Boonstra
> > *Sent:* Saturday, March 02, 2013 10:49 AM
> > *To:* Richard Osborne
> > *Cc:* Brandt Jimerson; Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>
> > *Subject:* Re: [Chrysler300] Chrysler power steering box
> >
> > I'm sure Steer and Gear is a fine company trying to do a very good
> > job, but they left me in a bit of a quandary I still haven't sorted my
> > way out of. A couple years ago I had my C down to the frame. And even
> > though there was nothing wrong with the steering box, I thought it
> > would be smart to send it out to be rebuilt while it was easy to R&R.
> > Seemed smart anyway.
> >
> > I got it back looking all fresh and brand new from Steer and Gear, put
> > it back on the frame, and went about building the whole car -
> > including the front clip - around it. Well; lo and behold, the dang
> > thing started leaking gear oil - not PS fluid - at a rate of three or
> > four drips a day from the joint between the upper and lower sections
> > of the box. It's still dripping every day, and it will until it
> > finally runs out of gear oil - or we pull it back out and do the
> > rebuild over. The gasket at that joint cannot be replaced without taking
> the box out of the car.
> >
> > This is a real PIA job that shouldn't have had to happen. I so don't
> > even want to find out how hard it is to pull the steering column and
> > snake the steering box out between the engine and the inner fender
> > without doing any body damage. The book says it's possible, but can I
> > really do that without scratching paint anywhere at all?
> >
> > I have told S&G about it and to their credit they are at least mildly
> > sympathetic. They said, "No problem. Just ship it back and we'll do
> > the job over". Easily said. I asked if they would cover my R&R cost,
> > and they said they would not. They said they would do a second one
> > free for me if I ever needed it, but they won't help me out on this
> > R&R. And why would I want to send a second one in for a rebuild 
> after this
> experience.
> >
> > In the meantime I'm just procrastinating a job I'm going to hate,
> > knowing full well I'll wreck the box if I don't fix it before it runs
> > out of gear oil. I wish someone would have been there at the time to
> > tell me to just clean up the box, and don't mess with something that
> > ain't broke.
> >
> > Has anyone on the forum had the experience of removing the steering
> > box from a '57 or '58 with the engine in and the front clip on? How
> > bad is it? Tell me it's not going to be as tough as it seems.
> >
> > Class? Anyone?
> >
> > Thanks.
> > Keith Boonstra
> >
> > -
> > On 3/2/2013 9:50 AM, Richard Osborne wrote:
> > > Hi Brandt,
> > >
> > > Send it to Steer and Gear. They will rebuild it. They can even give
> > you options as to the "feel" you get when driving. They are life long
> > Mopar people and will treat you right. They did my G as well as a
> > bunch of other cars for me.
> > >
> > > http://www.steerandgear.com/index.html
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Richard Osborne
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mar 1, 2013, at 10:06 PM, Brandt Jimerson brandt300g@xxxxxxxxx 
> <mailto:brandt300g%40yahoo.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hello to all in 300sville!!
> > >>
> > >> Well Melissa would be pretty nice if it weren't for a severe power
> > steering box leak. I found a 1961 Chrysler Newport power steering box
> > on line but I don't know if it will work for my G. Is it better to
> > take apart what I have and just replace the seal(s) or do I need a
> > whole new box!? I know Timo T., from Riverside, Ca., sells them but I
> > don't know his number. The box for the '61 Newport that I came across
> > on line is $585 with a $300 core deposit. Someone please give me a
> > 'shoutback' and let me know and thank you kindly in advance!!
> > >>
> > >> Sincerely & 300ly, Brandt H J with a leaky G.
> > >>
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