Re: [Chrysler300] Disc brakes

[John Lazenby <french_fryguy@xxxxxxxxx>]

I've noticed zero difference in brake fade since installing the KW but then I don't race around and push the brakes to their limit.  The KW I installed are vented and directional.
 
John Lazenby
 

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 From: Edward Mills Antique Tractors <millserat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: John Lazenby <french_fryguy@xxxxxxxxx> 
Cc: John Nowosacki <jsnowosacki@xxxxxxxxx>; Roger Schaaf <obiwan10@xxxxxxxxxxx>; Travis Baker <travisbaker4@xxxxxxxxx>; "Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Disc brakes
  

   
 
I used Kleen Wheels for a while on a 2300 pound Sports Car that I drive 
pretty hard in the 1980 time frame up and down a mountain road to/from 
work every day - they did keep wheels clean but I found they affected 
brake cooling and had some issues with fade under repeated hard braking 
- even with Ferrodo DS11 racing brake pads - took them off and fade 
problem went away.

Probably OK if I had been sane in my younger day. May be fine for a 
classic that is not driven hard or not repeated hard braking with little 
cool off time in between.  But if you are going to discs for stopping 
power on a 4000-5000 pound car it may be something to think about.

On 1/28/2012 9:33 AM, John Lazenby wrote:
>
> Regarding the "brake dust", I've found a way to greatly improve this 
> problem.  Our '57 300 had 15" MotorRim & Wheel factory wire wheels 
> used by Chrysler from 1953-1956.
>
> When the disc brakes were installed I suffered with brake dust and 
> even changed the pads with different compounds trying to be the 
> problem.  The best the pad changes did was improved it some.
>
> Years prior I had sold a product, KleenWheels 
> http://www.kleenwheels.com/ which our customers were very pleased 
> with.  I ordered a set for the car which I think were listed as a 
> "universal" set based on the bolt pattern.
>
> They installed easily and made a huge difference on the brake dust.  I 
> would recommend anyone having the "dust" issue give them a try.
>
> John Lazenby
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: John Nowosacki <jsnowosacki@xxxxxxxxx 
> <mailto:jsnowosacki%40gmail.com>>
> To: Roger Schaaf <obiwan10@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:obiwan10%40comcast.net>>
> Cc: John Lazenby <french_fryguy@xxxxxxxxx 
> <mailto:french_fryguy%40yahoo.com>>; Travis Baker 
> <travisbaker4@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:travisbaker4%40gmail.com>>; 
> "Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>" 
> <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>>
> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 4:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Disc brakes
>
>
> I used the AAJ conversion on my G and am pleased with the 
> results.  I'd have to say that it only really stops about 10-15% 
> better than a correctly set up original drum system, but given the 
> dampness of the Northeast and the amount of time the car sits over the 
> winter (though not this winter-hooray!) I don't miss messing with 
> leaky wheel cylinders or adjusting cams.
> I have the complete original system as you don't have to mofify 
> anything with AAJ.  I can swap back for originality quite easily if I 
> wanted to, but it is so easy to just change pads or even a caliper as 
> compared to the original system that I doubt I will ever do so.
> The only drawback I have seen is that the vented wheel covers of the G 
> do allow a good amount of brake dust to dirty the white walls and 
> lower body panels behind the front wheels.
> I could probably change to a different pad that didn't create quite so 
> much dust, but it will take years for me to wear these out at only a 
> couple thousand miles per year.
> I'm seriously considering the same setup for my 57C.
> You can just buy the bracket and bolts from AAJ and then by the discs, 
> calipers, pads, etc. from your local auto parts store so you don't 
> have to pay a lot for shipping these heavier pieces from the west 
> coast if you don't live close to them.
> I'd prefer the more massive disc brakes like the ones on my Hurst over 
> the GM caliper Monte Carlo sized system, but they seem to be fine for 
> my use and I haven't experienced any brake fade or overheating.  I 
> still have the drum brakes on the rear, but I think they may have a 
> rear disc setup as well?
>
> On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 1:00 AM, Roger Schaaf <obiwan10@xxxxxxxxxxx 
> <mailto:obiwan10%40comcast.net>> wrote:
>
> I had once looked at the AAJ disc brake conversion for my B.  It 
> looked an excellent solution, but I was also very interested in dual 
> master cylinder support(to me this was more important than the disc 
> brakes).  At the time(some 5 years ago) there was no replacement 
> master cylinder that would fit the B without the need to "dimple", I 
> believe it was the left side valve cover which I did not wish to do.
> >
> >Has anyone come up with a different dual reservoir master cylinder(or 
> perhaps some other solution) than the purposed one (I believe older 
> C2/C3 Corvette unit) that would do the job a bit more neatly?
> >
> >Roger Schaaf
> >300 B
> >Calyfornua
> >
> >
> >On Jan 27, 2012, at 7:27 PM, John Lazenby wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> http://www.aajbrakes.com/
> >>
> >> I've done both my 300F and 300C with their kits.  They have an 
> excellent product.
> >>
> >> John Lazenby
> >>
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: Travis Baker <travisbaker4@xxxxxxxxx 
> <mailto:travisbaker4%40gmail.com>>
> >> To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 7:10 PM
> >> Subject: [Chrysler300] Disc brakes
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Has anyone out there ever done a Brake conversion on a 300F or G? 
> If so can
> >> you direct me to a company that has the complete kit.Thanks,Travis
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