Re: FW: [Chrysler300] white F coupe on eBay- further examination of the photo...

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All:
All this speculation could have been avoided if the seller-----especially  
on a car claimed to be mostly original---would have included pictures of the 
VIN  and Code tags.  What are they afraid of?
I agree with Carl that the car could be the Daytona Sand 300F.  The  
leading edge of the hood underside seems like it has a "sandy" cast to it, as  
well.
Some aspects of the original looking interior differed from my 888  car.  I 
suspect variations do exist.  It was nice to see the  impression of the 
cigarette lighter in the rear surface of the front arm  rest!  The hardest to 
explain difference was the greater number of  horizontal "pleats" in the rear 
seat back.  I thought they looked narrower,  so counted mine.  11 vs 12.  I 
then checked the original seat back  skin I always carry along.  Eleven in 
it as well.  (Gary Goers got it  right, as usual!)  Was the interior 
replaced a long time ago?  Don't  know.  
300ly, Gil Cunningham
Tally, FL 
Sunny and 62
 
 
In a message dated 10/25/2011 4:56:40 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
cbilter@xxxxxxxxx writes:

Further  examination of the photos on ebay reveals the following, at least 
to
my  eyes.  I strongly suspect this was the F that originally wore the  TT1
Daytona Sand exterior color, making it both a special order interior  and
exterior color that has been changed to white.  Looking closely at  the
underhood picture, near the brake booster and the driver's side  inner
fender, looks like Daytona Sand to me.  It is very clear where  the car was
repainted and where it was not. Also in the trunk compartment  under the
trunk hinges and behind the cardboard panels, I see the same  Daytona Sand
color.  I can't be totally sure, of course, without an  onsite examination
but I'd make a bet on  it.



Carl

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From: C Bilter  [mailto:cbilter@xxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 12:20 PM
To:  'Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] white F coupe on  eBay



I suspect Joe Bortz is the selling agent not the actual  owner but who 
knows?



The March 2004 edition of NewsFlite listed  the letter cars with special
order interiors by s/n.  There were three  Fs listed with red interiors.  
Two
had WW1 Alaskan White  exteriors.  One of the white ones had been scrapped.
The other, at  that time, was owned by Gary Goers s/n 8403138891.    The
third F  with a s/o red interior had a TT1 Daytona Sand exterior, last known
owner  was a T. Denkovski in Illinois and s/n 8403156000.  Perhaps the car  
on
ebay is this car as they claim it's had the same owner for the last  25
years?



The red seats look original but appear to have  been "leatheriqued."  
There's
nothing wrong with that, of course, but  if you look closely the seats are
both shinier and a brighter red than the  console armrest, at least on the
rear seats.  The lever and gauge next  to the console look non- original to
me.



Nice  car!!



Carl Bilter

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From:  Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf  Of John Lyons
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 12:10 PM
To: 'Mark  Lindahl'; 'Bob Jasinski'; 'Michael Moore'
Cc:  Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] white F coupe on  eBay





That is Joe Bortz! Very famous collector.  He owned several of the
Futureliners as well as loads of concept cars from  the '50's. The display
at Pebble a few years back included many of his  cars.

Very nice gentleman but I wouldn't call if not serious about the  car.

John

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Behalf Of Mark  Lindahl
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 12:48 PM
To: Bob Jasinski;  Michael Moore
Cc: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> 
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300]  white F coupe on eBay

Hi All,

A search using his phone number  came up with this info.

Mark Lindahl
'63 300 Conv. near  Chicago

For more information:
Joe's cell: 847-668-2004 - Please  contact if you have any of the following 
cars - all leads  appreciated!
call: 847-774-4857
fax: 847-433-0277
e-mail:  Bortzcars@xxxxxxx  <mailto:Bortzcars%40aol.com>
<mailto:Bortzcars%40aol.com>  

Or write us:
P.O. Box 280
Highland Park, IL  60035.

Copyright 2004 Bortzautocollection.com

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Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300]  white F coupe on eBay

> Bob, that is a really nice original looking  car. It would be shame to 
> restore it.
> What is the small lever  sticking up alongside the console?
> Mike Moore 300H
> On Oct 25,  2011, at 9:06 AM, Bob Jasinski wrote:
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>> There's an  interesting white F coupe on eBay. It has a red interior,
>> special  order car?
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