Re: [Chrysler300] 1961 Weight

[P J IRISH <hmpirish@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

300 Fans,

With respect to tires not handling the loads, there may be a hidden problem that 
I discovered the hard way - two blowouts at interstate speeds !

I have an enclosed, 28ft  trailer that I haul my 56B, and a buick electra 225 
convert, around in.  Two 6,000 lb axels give me some "extra capability" if I 
find lots of parts, etc. to take home.

My tires are ST235R85s  suited to the 12,000 lb max gross weight,  BUT no one - 
 not the trailer manufacturer, or the tire dealer who sold me the replacements 
after the first failure - mentioned the fact that exceeding the speed of 65 MPH 
voids the warrantee and RAPIDLY destroys the sidewall integrity - leading to 
blowouts at speed.  On a trip out west 70 mph is widely legal, and 75 is in one 
state.  My less than year old tires did not complete the trip.  Undoubtedly the 
115 to 120 temps in OK, NM and AZ were a factor as well but significant time 
above the unknown to me speed limit was primary.

Fortunately no harm done, except to my wallet.

All the Best 300ing - Be Safe,

Phil Irish


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From: "LabLoverDC@xxxxxxx" <LabLoverDC@xxxxxxx>
To: wranderson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tue, October 4, 2011 7:46:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] 1961 Weight

I strongly second Rich's advice re going with the 5000# + axles (often they 
seem to be 5200#'s).  We made the mistake on our enclosed car hauler of  
sticking with the standard 3500# axles, which actually limits the hauling  
capacity of the trailer to around 3500 pounds (since the trailer itself weighs 
about 3500#).  We have torsion bar suspension, which seems to carry the  
weight well enough, but our biggest problem is tires.  It is hard to get  
tires with enough weight-carrying capacity to fit on the wheel/axle combination 
we have, and we frequently have blowouts.  

It has gotten so bad that we're probably either going to change out  our 
axles, or buy a new trailer.

Re the weight distributing hitch (which we have), it has always been my  
understanding that it redistributes the tongue weight more evenly throughout 
the  tow vehicle (so it's not all sitting right on the tongue, and makes the 
vehicle  ride more level), but it doesn't have any effect on the weight 
carrying capacity  of the trailer as far as I know.  I could be wrong--that's 
just what I've  always believed to be the case.  We've also found an anti-sway 
bar to be a  very worthwhile addition too.

Shannon Steele

n a message dated 10/3/2011 6:23:35 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
wranderson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:




Rich,

You are absolutely correct. A 4000# Chrysler will follow along  just fine 
on a trailer with two 3500# axles - - - BUT. 

The weight  distributing hitch is a must have, not optional, piece also 
with most tow  vehicles.

Warren Anderson
Sedona, AZ

Incremental cost is  minimal. Hauling our C-300 along a pot-holed I-5 on an
open 7,000# trailer  resulted on axles bowed to the point of accelerated 
wear
on the inside of  the tires. It was possible to have the tube axles
straightened and  realigned at a specialty shop. Estimated total weight of
trailer, car and  contents about 6,500#. Cutting it a little close. 

The  weight-distributing hitch actually transfers some of the tongue weight
to  the trailer axles and the tow vehicle front axle. Next time, I'll dial
in  the inexpensive safety factor of buying the 10,000# trailer and I want  
to
share that recommendation to our readers.

C-300-K'ly,

Rich  Barber

Brentwood, CA

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Sedona, AZ

Incremental cost is  minimal. Hauling our C-300 along a pot-holed I-5 on an
open 7,000# trailer  resulted on axles bowed to the point of accelerated 
wear
on the inside of  the tires. It was possible to have the tube axles
straightened and  realigned at a specialty shop. Estimated total weight of
trailer, car and  contents about 6,500#. Cutting it a little close. 

The  weight-distributing hitch actually transfers some of the tongue weight
to  the trailer axles and the tow vehicle front axle. Next time, I'll dial
in  the inexpensive safety factor of buying the 10,000# trailer and I want  
to
share that recommendation to our readers.

C-300-K'ly,

Rich  Barber

Brentwood, CA

From: Ray Jones [mailto:_hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:hurst300@xxxxxxxxxx) 
] 

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