RE: [Chrysler300] f going in museum

["Larry Nirenberg" <lnirenberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Given the sales volume of our beasts I have always assumed that they
were sold below production cost.  Though likely a more a more extreme
example, the Cadillac Brougham of 57-58 vintage was basically hand
assembled and reportedly cost GM $23,000 to build while selling for a
then exorbitant $13,000 which was more than a Rolls Royce Silver Cloud
of the same year, but was intended to be the best car GM could build
and, like the 300s, was certainly a landmark car that brought status to
the rest of the product line.  How much government bailout money do you
think Chrysler or GM could get for this kind of strategy today?

 

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From: Carlton Schroeder [mailto:schroe99@xxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 10:01 AM
To: John; Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Larry Nirenberg
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] f going in museum

 

Maybe Gil or other knowledgeable former Chrysler employees could comment
on if the 300's themselves were ever a profitable car for Chrysler.  I
was under the impression that their cost was more than their selling
price but that they brought a lot of interest to Chrysler and were good
advertising for the entire company.  If that is true it would be
interesting to know what their approximate selling price would have
otherwise been. 

 

Carlton Schroeder

(in soggy Eagle River, WI)

 

 

	----- Original Message ----- 

	From: Larry Nirenberg
<mailto:lnirenberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  

	To: John <mailto:spiers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  ;
Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 

	Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 6:47 AM

	Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] f going in museum

	 

	
	
	
	

	Unfortunately, I don't think $38,000+ means what it used to
especially
	in car terms. The inflation calculator doesn't do justice to
what this
	car cost new in relative terms. Searching the web I found the
average
	price of a new car in 1960 was about $3000. At $5411 the 300F
base
	price was over 80% more than the average new car price of the
era.
	Today, the average car price is $28,000+ times 1.8 is over $50k
(and
	likely more as I assume the average price is MSRP as equipped
not
	average base price). All do respect to the new 300, I think this
price
	range is more reflective of the company an original letter car
kept in
	modern terms. Not exactly earth shattering but interesting to
think
	about.
	
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	From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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[mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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	On Behalf Of John
	Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 8:14 PM
	To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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	Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] f going in museum
	
	Hi all - 
	I found am "inflation calculator" online - they explain how they
	calculate as well.
	http://www.dollartimes.com/calculators/inflation.htm
<http://www.dollartimes.com/calculators/inflation.htm> 
	<http://www.dollartimes.com/calculators/inflation.htm
<http://www.dollartimes.com/calculators/inflation.htm> > 
	That would make the base price of a 300-F to be $38692.33 in
2009
	dollars- darn close to a 300-C SRT-8
	Regards,
	John spiers
	
	--- On Wed, 4/29/09, Ray Jones <hurst300@xxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:hurst300%40hughes.net> 
	<mailto:hurst300%40hughes.net> > wrote:
	
	From: Ray Jones <hurst300@xxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:hurst300%40hughes.net>  <mailto:hurst300%40hughes.net> >
	Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] f going in museum
	To: "Larry Nirenberg" <lnirenberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:lnirenberg%40firstmerchantsgroup.com> 
	<mailto:lnirenberg%40firstmerchantsgroup.com> >
	Cc: "Ray Jones" <hurst300@xxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:hurst300%40hughes.net>  <mailto:hurst300%40hughes.net> >,
	Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> 
	Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 11:48 AM
	
	Hi Larry;
	Congrats!
	I would suggest that after the "from $5,411", you find a
conversion on 
	the internet to show what the car would cost in today's money.
that 
	can always be interesting as most who will be looking at your
Brute 
	will have no idea how much the money has changed.
	Ray
	
	On Apr 28, 2009, at 8:38 PM, Larry Nirenberg wrote:
	
	I have put
	together a little blurb (dare I say plagiarized) from various
sources
	and would like comment on any other factoids that might help
explain the
	historical importance of the Chrysler letter car
	
	"It's the fellowship that makes it a special event."
	Nifty neat stuff gonna be ahappening at the Spring Meet...Y'all
gotta 
	come and play with us! Ray
	
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