
Re: [Chrysler300] Center Plane Brakes
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Re: [Chrysler300] Center Plane Brakes
- From: "George Riehl" <longrams@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 11:02:46 -0400
In addition to this situation, I also remember that when installing "new" shoes, that on the raised areas of the backing plate, where the brake shoe contacts, that a "small" quantity of "lubriplate" grease be applied to those areas to "prevent" the hang-up of the brake shoe and to aid in the complete return of the shoes to the adjustment excentric. Also, when changing shoes, make sure that those "raised" areas are clean and "bright" with no dust, dirt or friction material residue.
George
----- Original Message -----
From: George Riehl
To: Chrysler300 list ; Bob Merritt
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 12:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Center Plane Brakes
Wow! This brings back a memory! Some years ago, when Chrysler sent me a whole bunch of info on the 300s, there was a Service Bulletin about "squeaking brakes" concerning the "center plane system". When all else failed to solve the problem, it was suggested that the mechanic take a hacksaw and install two blades. Then make a somewhat small cut (approx. 1/16" deep) from the toe to the heel of the lining diagnally top left to bottom right.
Years ago, I did have this problem on my F. The "springs" were on the drums but still "squeeked". I pulled off the shoes and installed two blades on the hacksaw and made the cuts. Put everything back togeather, never a sound from then on. Why did it work? Your guess is as good as mine.
George Riehl
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Merritt
To: Chrysler300 list
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 1:57 PM
Subject: [Chrysler300] Center Plane Brakes
This message was on another list but might be of interest.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Burton Bouwkamp"
Subject: [Imperial-Club] CENTERPLANE BRAKES
From 1954 to 1960 I was a product engineer (called "resident engineer") at
the Chrysler Jefferson Plant. During that time Chrysler came out with
centerplane brakes. It was a great concept on paper - the shoe web floated
between two aligning plates and the friction material aligned itself with
the drum on application. I think the merchandizing name was "Total Contact
Brakes".
Center plane brakes worked fine as brakes - but they were noisy! Brake
squeak!!! We tried lots of different linings but it didn't help.
(Although, it did give us an answer for top management. When they asked
why the brakes squeaked on their personal car we answered, "you don't have
the latest lining"). Finally - in desperation - we added raised plateaus
to the backing plate to touch the side of the brake shoe. The idea was for
the shoe/backing plate contact to work like putting your finger on the
side of a vibrating tuning fork. The problem was that in production the
dimensional variations in the brake were so great that on some cars this
fix worked as intended and sometimes it resulted in dimensional
interference that caused shoe returnability problems and/or shoes that
would not align themselves with the brake drum unless something
deflected - obviously compromising the "total contact" concept.
We fought this problem for years - and finally gave up trying to make the
centerplane brake concept work. We decided to join the rest of the
industry in using the "Lockheed" brake design.
Burt Bouwkamp
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