Re: [Chrysler300] Disc Brakes and the Steering Arm on the Spindle-300F(conversion)

["Gary Barker" <gbarker@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi John,  I have the part number of the Dual Master cylinder I used on my 
300F and it fits perfect. Let me know if you need the number.  Gary Barker
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From: "John Kuegel" <jwkco@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 6:06 AM
To: <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "John Mc Adams" <clafong@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; 
"Theresa Kuegel" <theresa_scheider@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] Disc Brakes and the Steering Arm on the 
Spindle-300F(conversion)

> Thanks Big John,
>
> -no doubt, yours is great advice about the ready-made kits from AAJ, and 
> had I not known John Hertog, I may have ultimately gone that route, but I 
> have had the donor parts for quite a while and got them for next to 
> nothing....and the rotors, calipers, etc. are super cheap and plentiful 
> from my local NAPA,...I think everything for both wheels including the 
> spindles was less than $150...I already had made the 15" rim change(from a 
> Dodge Diplomat), and modified them to wear the stunning(and mandatory!) F 
> hubcaps and the spiffy new BFG wide white radials my lovely wife  got all 
> my friends to buy me for my 40th B'day...that was a nice project even with 
> all the cutting, grinding and welding!...don't worry, all my stock F rims 
> and other parts, etc. are labeled and stored for the next curator if I 
> should slip on that banana peel!! (and the folks at Barrett Jackson 
> ask...)
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> -I will not be bending the steering arm with a torch, but follow my 
> instincts and find a way to shorten the tie rods...I will leave the 
> metallurgy to other, more experienced pilgrims...
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> -after several hours at NAPA looking at the old books and noting pictures 
> and specs on steering parts, I think I may have an easy alternative to 
> threading and cutting the inner tie rod ends...it involves using a longer 
> sleeve and a shorter inner(LH threaded) tie rod end- all 
> off-the-shelf(cheap) stuff...it will be trial and error, so I will have to 
> keep you posted...
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> -thanks to the knowledge from other club members and this listserver, I 
> think I will have a dual MC that will fit and work well(and is 
> inexpensive)...I took the other fork in the road, so I have to stay on it, 
> but  the kit from AAJ looks like the cat's pajamas!...I can't wait till 
> the discs are on there- these and a couple of other things, like rear 
> seatbelts and a new driveshaft will allow me to take my two-year-old to 
> all the cool old car events!! (with a little more peace of mind...)
>
> John Kuegel,
> F in Long Island
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> --- On Wed, 10/29/08, John Mc Adams <clafong@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> From: John Mc Adams <clafong@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] Disc Brakes and the Steering Arm on the 
> Spindle-300F(conversion)
> To: jwkco@xxxxxxxxx, Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Wednesday, October 29, 2008, 12:11 PM
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>            John:
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> It seems that you have already bought the spindles and have started
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> installing them on your car.  It is unfortunate that you did not just buy
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> the complete kit from AAJ brakes.  They just bolt onto your stock spindles
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> (without re-aligning the front end geometry) and can be removed and put 
> back
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> to stock if you sell the car and the buyer wants it as original.  The
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> mechanical installation can be done in one afternoon, not including the
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> fabrication and bleeding of the lines.  I have done this on three of my
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> project MOPARS including a "B" body car.  They will even allow you to bolt
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> on 14 inch wheels, if that is your thing.
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> The dual circuit master cylinder that Roger offers with the AAJ kit will 
> fit
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> under the oval can (or oval rubber bellows) vacuum chamber on '61 and
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> earlier cars so you can have a redundant brake system.  I added an
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> adjustable pressure proportioning valve to the rear brake circuit to 
> balance
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> out the braking between the discs on the front and the drums on the back. 
> I
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> am not sure that it was really necessary.
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> Oh well, that is all water under the bridge as they say and you are now
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> floating down the river on the course that you have selected.  I wish you
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> good luck and successful completion of your project.  Disc brakes make 
> such
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> an improvement on our heavy 300's as the stock 12 inch "Center Pain" drum
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> brakes were very temperamental for me to adjust to my satisfaction.
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> To anyone else considering a disc brake conversion, I highly recommend the
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> AAJ disc conversion.  He also offers discs for the rear tapered axles but 
> I
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> have not tried them myself.  Give Roger (at AAJ) a call and he will answer
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> your questions as he is a really nice guy.  See:
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> http://www.aajbrake s.com/
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> For what it is worth,
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> Big John Mc Adams
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> (In Sunny and warm SoCal)
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> From: Chrysler300@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:Chrysler300@ yahoogroups. com] 
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> Behalf Of John Kuegel
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> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 6:00 AM
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> To: Bill Huff; Warren Anderson; Chrysler300@ yahoogroups. com; Hi Tech 
> Auto
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> Parts
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> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Disc Brakes and the Steering Arm on the
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> Spindle-300F( conversion)
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> thankyou,
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> - you confirm my belief that one should stay away from heating up and
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> bending forged steering parts...I think I can accomplish the same thing
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> by shortening the inner tie rod ends, if I can get the left hand
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> threads extended a bit on the rod ends...this will give me the desired
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> ability to align the steering, once this brake conversion is
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> completed... the steering geometry should not be changed by shortening
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> the tie rod ends because the disc brake spindles I am adding have
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> longer steering arms anyway, and I would just be adjusting the length
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> of the tie rod system to meet it for connection.. .all my 300F stock
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> parts would stay intact- just get removed...the modifications will take
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> place on new parts...
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> thanks, John Kuegel
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> --- On Tue, 10/28/08, Hi Tech Auto Parts <htap@xxxxxxxxxx
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> From: Hi Tech Auto Parts <htap@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:htap% 40clear.net. nz> 
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> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Disc Brakes and the Steering Arm on the
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> Spindle-300F( conversion)
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> To: "Bill Huff" <czbill@xxxxxxx <mailto:czbill% 40cfl.rr. com> com>, 
> "Warren
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> Anderson" <wranderson@ commspee <mailto:wranderson% 40commspeed. net> 
> d.net>,
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> jwkco@yahoo. <mailto:jwkco% 40yahoo.com> com, Chrysler300@
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> Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 4:14 PM
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> I agree bending/heating is dangerous and not good practice.how ever 
> haveing
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> to shorten the tierods that much, will more than likely upset the steering
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> circle/geometry of your car.Chrysler wasnt short on spending $$$ when it
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> came to investing on a good suspension layout and no doubt where the arms
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> sit from factory are the optimum place-once changed how ever your steering
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> capabilities will no doubt deminish with it-tried it once my self-and paid
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> the price on nice orig.steering. Best solution is use orig.steering/
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> suspension arms and get a bolt on disc brake conversion kit to suit.
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> Geoff Matthews-sunny NZ.
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