
Re: [Chrysler300] Transmission Fluid
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Re: [Chrysler300] Transmission Fluid
- From: "Mark Lindahl" <mplindahl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 12:39:25 -0500
Please read this email that I saved from previous discussions re: trans
fluid.
----- Original Message -----
From: Wayne Graefen
To: George
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 4:11 PM
Subject: trans fluid
Hi George,
I see torqueflite fluid is in play again on the list server.
Last I recall you said to use Type F in your rebuilds. Still correct?
What about when I've got any other Mopar torqueflite from the '60s and it is
down a quart or two?
Do I add type F?
F can be hard to have in hand all the time - what about Dexron-Mercon to top
out?
If you were doing a pan gasket drain and refill (including torque converter
and filter) or a trans flush on a 100K mile car, what would you suggest
should go back in?
And may I forward your answers to the 300 list server and the ForwardLook
group?
Thanks,
Wayne
----- Original Message -----
From: George Riehl
To: Wayne Graefen
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: trans fluid
Hi Wayne;
The best fluid to use in the older P/F, T/F and 727s and 904s, is type F. If
F cannot be found, type FA is O.K. FA has just a little more "slip"
additive. By no means use Mercon/Dextron. After a period of use, M/D fluid
will actually seperate the friction disc material from the steel backing.
Most other fluids will also damage the friction material.
In "modern" day cars, the trannys are set up to shift so that one cannot
"feel" the shifting. So, the manufacturers have formulated fluids with more
"slip" additive. Slippage of the friction discs causes gradual degeneration
of the discs. The "old" T/F and P/F trannys always shifteed a little harder
than other auto manufacturers trannys, but they did last longer. Generally,
70 - 100K miles, most GM trannies were shot. In the past, GM/Ford owners
bought "Chryslers" and hated the "harsher" shifting and went back to other
manufacturers. Chrysler trannys lasted well beyond 150+K miles. This also
applies to the 727 trannys.
Some time ago, Chrysler Performance issued a bulletin about trans fluid
and suggested that type F be used in all 727s used in competition. This was
the result from the "drag" racing guys.
The "old" Type A-Suffix A fluid was manufactured with a parrifin base
material. When heated, the "wax" would turn into crystals (like rock candy)
and plug the passagages in the valve bodies, resulting in trans failure. I
have found this in a number of "used" trannys that I have rebuilt that came
from junkyards. One has to literally dig out the passages with a
screwdriver.
It is best to drop the pan and drain the converter. Clean the pan and
scren. AND, in some cases, drop the valve body and clean it thoroughly. That
will add life to a very good used tranny. And while one is at it, readjust
the bands (300s, front, 2 1/4 turns, rear band, 2 turns out) after
tightening down both band adhustments with about 75 inch pounds, then lock
down the nut.
It's like giving the tranny a S, S, S and then a good meal with new fluid.
And, when replacing the pan with a new gasket, make sure that you "pound"
down the raised bolt holes in the pan so the gasket seals properly. Very
important! And, please, do not use any silicone sealer. Some tend to use
way too much which in turn will "squeeze" out and find the filter and plug
it up. Bad news. Sometimes, even gets into the valve bodies.
George Riehl
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Paul" <b_paul_ncp@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Mark Lindahl" <mplindahl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 12:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Transmission Fluid
> Hi Mark,
>
> Sorry, but there are many Club members including me
> who have used Dexron/Mercon with no problems ever
> since Type A was discontinued. The major producers of
> tranny fluid who I contacted recommended Dexron as the
> replacement for Type A, not Type F.
>
> Bruce Paul
> Cherry Hill, NJ
>
>
> --- Mark Lindahl <mplindahl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Ron,
>>
>> I think the group would vote for Type F transmission
>> fluid?
>> Mark Lindahl
>> '63 300 Conv.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Ron Pikielek
>> To: Chrysler 300 Club
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 9:41 AM
>> Subject: [Chrysler300] Transmission Fluid
>>
>>
>> Have a 64 Sport Coupe. Manual calls for Type A,
>> Suffix A Fluid. Is there any type I could add that
>> would be compatible?
>> Ron P
>>
>>
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