Re: [Chrysler300] 300F problems Pertronix

["Roger Schaaf" <obiwan10@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Are points lost in judging of 300's that have converted to electronic ignitions?

Roger Schaaf
300 B
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tony Rinaldi 
  To: Richard Osborne ; John Hertog ; VICTOR KOONTZ ; Chrysler 300 Club 
  Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 7:42 AM
  Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] 300F problems Pertronix


  To All,

  You all must be careful when sharing war stories about the Pertronix unit.

  Are you talking about the original one or the (improved?) Pertronix II, the
  upgraded model.

  John Hertog put the original Pertronix unit in my ³F² and the car ran
  horribly. He had my distributor re set up with dual points (calibrated by
  Don Verity) and the car ran well.

  If you take the switched power source from the ballast resistor, be sure to
  take it from the origin (before the resistor 12V side) and not after the
  resistor (6V side).

  Subsequently, I converted my car to Mallory CDI ignition with the points
  acting only as signaling devices. Had to redo wires with epoxy Mallory coil.

  Tony

  From: Richard Osborne <richard@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 05:44:22 -0500
  To: "John J. Hertog" <crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, 'VICTOR KOONTZ'
  <wikki123@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] 300F problems Pertronix

  John,

  I think something else is the issue here. There is NO dwell setting with the
  Pertronix upgrade. It is the absolute definition of plug and play. I added
  this to the white G last year. I had accidentally pulled some of the wires
  loose from the points while attempting a re-detail of the distributor.
  Rather than screw with setting the points back up, I called John Lazenby and
  ordered the Pertronix.

  The hardest part of the install was finding a good non-obvious power source.
  I suspect this is where the problem at hand lies. I no longer have the
  instructions, but it is very specific the power requirements. I spliced in
  around the ballast resistor, I'd have to look at which side, I can't
  remember right now.

  Once I had it installed, I was amazed as my car was no longer a turd, it
  performed great! The car had always run o.k., it just never had any balls. I
  feel it now has the power it should have had all along now. I do not mean to
  imply that this improvement is strictly because of the Pertronix (I think
  something was set incorrectly with the points), but I am very happy with it
  and have no interest in switching back to points as I plan to continue
  driving it a lot.

  Best regards,

  Richard Osborne

  >>> "John J. Hertog" <crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:crossram%40optonline.net> >
  03/15/07 11:07 pm >>>
  Hi Victor, 

  Welcome to the Club and to the listserver. For the rest of the group,
  Victor owns a 300F hardtop restored by Tom Cox and then owned for a bit by
  Thomas Powers. Very nice black hardtop. Now on to your question - and a
  good question it is! I noticed the same dwell readings (I kind of tend to
  remember a lower number, though - like 18 degrees) when I installed a
  Pertronix on one or two of my 413 ram cars. And all I can say is that the
  car(s) never ran quite right with Pertronix. I ended up removing them,
  reinstalling the factory dual points, and everything was much better again.
  Also, what brand and model plug are you using? Comments, anyone?

  Vic, you may want to talk to Don Verity, at d.verity@xxxxxxx
  <mailto:d.verity%40cox.net> ; he's got a
  Sun distributor machine all set up and could fix up your distributor to
  spec. and bench- test it ...

  Original tires were 9.00- 14 Goodyear BlueStreak w. 2 1/2" whitewalls

  John Hertog
  Sag Harbor NY

  ----- Original Message-----
  From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>
  [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> ]
  On
  Behalf Of VICTOR KOONTZ
  Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 5:23 PM
  To: chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>
  Subject: [Chrysler300] (unknown)

  I just got a 300F & the old owner said he had troublewith the car carboning
  the plugs within 3 to 4 weeks after replacing the plugs. I haven't had it
  long enough to experience that problem, but with the plugs so hard to remove
  etc. I don't want go through it. I did replace the plugs when I got the car
  because it wouldn't run. The car has a pertronix replacement of the dual
  points with a regular coil. I took a dwell reading & it was 22 degrees.
  Single points should read 27to34 degrees. Could this cause the fouling do
  to low saturation time ? Should I put in a pertronix high voltage coil ?

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