Re: Re: [Chrysler300] Subject: Electric Window Motors

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   Bill,

  Do you have the info or link on how to eliminate the ammeter from our Mopars ?

  Thanks, Jim Faber
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> From: whuff <whuff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 2006/12/01 Fri PM 05:10:13 EST
> To: Ron Waters <ronbo97@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Subject: Electric Window Motors
> 
> Hi Ron,
> 
> I am not against this procedure, I did it myself and I recommend 
> it.  Putting the load circuit through a relay and controlling the 
> relay with a switch is really the way to go.  In my experience, from 
> a modern perspective, the design actually IS broke, running the power 
> circuit through the switch is not good.  On other forums, many have 
> deleted the ammeter circuit from their MOPARs because the entire 
> charging current was brought through a connector through the fire 
> wall to the dash and then back out through a fire wall connector to 
> the alternator/battery.  As these car aged problems began to occur 
> from high resistance connections, corrosion etc. Excessive voltage 
> drop, heat and poor performance are the result.  That circuit is 
> analogous to carrying the load current from the driver power window 
> switch, back down through the door and hinge, across the car, through 
> another door and hinge and then to the passenger or back seat window 
> motor.  It works, but it is poor design.  I don't know if this is 
> universal or not, but on my 300D, the power source wasn't 
> individually fused, just came off of a terminal block.  There is some 
> evidence of prior electrical shenanigans on this car, so maybe that 
> was stock, maybe not.
> 
> My only caveat is that I don't know the characteristics of the modern 
> miniature relays, it is beginning to sound as if some of them are 
> suitable, but I still am going to dissect a couple.  The MOPAR 
> starting relays I used certainly will handle these motors and a lot 
> more.  Sort of an overkill philosophy.  I intend to do the same thing 
> to my 1970 300 windows as well.  All my other cars are manual windows 
> and I drink enough beer to keep my cranking arm in good 
> shape.  :-D  I think I have ranted on long enough about this, if I do 
> find out anything about the smaller relays I will pass it on.
> 
> Bill Huff
> 
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> 'At  12/1/200601:25 PM, Ron Waters wrote:
> >Thanks to everyone that responded to my query about relays. I'm less
> >confused now.
> >
> >After reading Bill Huff's reply to this thread, though, I will fall back on
> >the 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it' axiom.
> >
> >Ron
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