Fwd: [Chrysler300] F-G-H vs J-K short rams

[lettercars@xxxxxxx]

In a message dated 3/27/2005 8:40:16 AM Eastern Standard Time, Lettercars 
writes:

> 
> 
> In a message dated 3/26/2005 7:59:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
> wgraefen@xxxxxxx writes:
> 
> >> 
>> A little further info on F-G-H versus J-K short rams.
>> 
>> The F-G-H short rams were all the casting number given in the current eBay 
>> auction.   In '60 and '61 they were painted red.  Those on my car were in 
>> fact gloss red although they have been challenged to be the same semi-gloss of 
>> the 375 HP cars.  In '62 the short rams were the new engine blue/green 
>> color.   The 400HP F air cleaners were also gloss red and had taller internal 
>> studs because a taller filter element was employed for high speed breathing 
>> requirements.  I do not know the color of the 400HP G air cleaners.   I 
>> presume the '62 405HP air cleaners were gold.
>> 
>> The F-G-H short rams had their casting numbers on the bottom sides of the 
>> rams and all were hot water heated.  The F-G-H headers did not have a heat 
>> port cast in their sides for carburetor heat.   The J-K short rams had their 
>> casting numbers on the top side of the rams and were heated by exhaust heat 
>> from the manifolds.
>> 
>> I have a picture taken through my left wheel well showing the water 
>> fittings if anyone would care to see it.   Just ask
>> 
>> Hope this helps.
>> 
>> Blessed Easter all y'all,
>> 
> 
> Hi Wayne:
> I have a couple comments on your email.  Not ALL the 400HP engines had red 
> air cleaners, apparently.  The only two road tests I know of both show very 
> clear pictures of gold stock looking air cleaners.  Ref: Motor Life, June 1960, 
> pg. 51 and Popular Science, April 1960, pg. 74 (Ken Fermoyle's test).  The 
> Fermoyle test car does not seem to have the taller air filter elements, while 
> the Motor Life test car does.
> Regarding the 1962 short ram engine, the Hot Rod article where they raced a 
> sport 300 with the 405 clearly shows the rams a different color than the 
> engine.  They appear very dark, so may not be red, but are certainly not the 
> Chrysler green of the engine.  Of course, this car was built up, so who knows.  
> The jury is still out on whether any 300/300H came from the factory with the 
> short rams.  The other reference I have for 1962 is the Moons, who once saw 
> the engine which came out of Bud Faubel's car.  Their recollection is that it 
> was the std. "green" (turquoise).   I am sure they said the rams lying in the 
> trunk were red.
> Finally, the ram red is a gloss paint.   I have the Chrysler master on it.  
> It is quite close to the Cummins engine Apex red, which is currently 
> available.
> One last thing---is the only difference between the F/G/H rams and the J/K 
> rams the location of the part numbers?  I am not conveniently close to my ram 
> K to look at it, but will next time I am at the "barn".  The water heating 
> adapters just bolted on the the bottom of the plenum below the carbs where 
> ordinarily the tubes/elbows would go, didn't they?
> Happy Easter.   300y, Gil

I'll try again!   Gil


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