Re: [Chrysler300] '57 front brakes: what i've found ...

[Ray Jones <hurst300@xxxx>]

The problem with a Professional (and I was one) is that it all gets routine.
Too many years ago, when we installed a new Ammco Brake lathe, the Rep
demo'ed it to us. He set it up and showed all the proper checks and so
forth, and then cut the drum. Perfect, any way you measured it. He then took
a pack of ciggerettes out of his pocket. He tore a strip of the celephane
wrapper and loosened the lock nut on the lathe. He put the ultra thin strip
between the cone and the headstock of the lathe. When he started to recut
the drum, it cut noticeably crooked. So, that little bit can throw it off
and the only way to get it right is to make sure every part is clean, and
it's on straight to start with.
Ray Jones

> From: Philippe Courant <accf-club@xxxx>
> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:22:59 +0200
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> Subject: [Chrysler300] '57 front brakes: what i've found ...
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> This afternoon i've removed the two front drums from my '57 Imperial
> (remember that i've 2 problems: one is locking left wheel when cold, 2nd
> is pulling left when hot, see previous posts).
> - Someone send me this post:
> 
>> Phil, you're having the same problem myself and others at the power company
>> I work for are having. The brakes on my company truck would grab hard the
>> first few times I applied the brakes after the truck sat overnight. The
>> mechanics told me it was moisture getting into the brake linings. Alot of
>> brake linings are no longer built with asbestos in them so they are made of
>> a moisture absorbing material. The environmentalists at work. I suggest
>> trying to find someone who will reline your brake shoes with original
>> lining and I'll bet the problem goes away.
>> 
> And i think it's right.
> 
> But i've found other interseting thing !!! First, no leaking, no grease
> or oil on linings, no fluid in the wheel cylinder boots. All parts are
> perfect (don't know for return springs, see pics)
> As someone gave me a "comparator" (don't know if it's the correct word
> but see pic) i take some measurements on the 4 front drums i've (2 from
> my car and 2 from my "donor parts car"). Surprisingly the two drums from
> my car (which has been turned 2 years ago because the car pullled to one
> side) are badly out-of-round !!
> - # 1: (the original right side which was replaced by one from the
> parts car some months ago, see # 3 ) has 0.0060 out-of-round (FSM says:
> max 0.0040). Now i know why i replace it !
> - # 2 (which is the left side on my car): 0.0027 inside and 0.0047
> outside !!!! So the drum is cone shaped ... It's the "locking" side. As
> i said these drums were turned by a professional 2 years ago !!!
> - # 3: The right on my car (which was one from the parts car and it's
> original) has 0.0015 out-of-round
> - # 4: The left from the parts car (which was on a shed and also
> original): 0.0019 out-of-round.
> So i've removed the "conical" drum and put the 0.0019 which is a little
> "grooved" but i think it's better than a cone-shaped drum. Now i've the
> 0.0015 and the 0.0019.
> I've not tested the car, i finished at night. I'll check tomorrow.
> 
> Pics of the drums and measurements (on an original knuckle !) are at
> http://www.ifrance.com/c-i-f/brakes.htm
> 
> 
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> Philippe COURANT (Pau, France)- Webmaster des sites ACCF et C-I-F
> Imperial 1957 Crown convertible
> Buick 1996 Roadmaster wagon
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