Well Ray, we're not all 65ish - I'm 38, and ugly is ugly no matter what age you are, just like a four door sedan is a four door sedan no matter what name you slap on it. I guess at least this car has 300 HP, as any 300 should, but the design looks more like an armored vehicle than anything else. Certainly doesn't have the nice lines of the 300's our club represent. Let's hope that someone at Chrysler will come out with a nice 2-door and convertible, I for one don't believe that the market would not want to see a real 300 reborn - a 4-door version of what should be a 2-door car just isn't right (anyone remember the "68 T-bird?). Alex Krikhaar 300F -----Original Message----- From: Ray Jones [mailto:hurst300@xxxx] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 4:38 PM To: doug_jones@xxxx; Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] NEW 300C from Chrysler! "Point being, we're 65ish, and graduated Hi school in 1956...when all the hot rods and mean street machines were being "borned". Can't be many of the 50-60's guys left now...." Ray Jones....See ya in Battle Creek!