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[Chrysler300] Digest Number 889
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- Date: 11 Feb 2004 13:19:00 -0000
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There are 12 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Hi Everyone in Chryslerland!
From: trkosky@xxxxxxx
2. Re: Hi Everyone in Chryslerland!
From: ronbo97@xxxxxxxxxxx
3. Re: Hi Everyone in Chryslerland!
From: "Dave Agnew" <Fnnutz@xxxxxxxxxx>
4. Re: Hi Everyone in Chryslerland!
From: Ray Jones <hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxx>
5. Re: What makes a 300 "real"??
From: Ray Jones <hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxx>
6. remove from group mailing
From: "Jack and Sandra" <sanjac@xxxxxxxxx>
7. 1957 Chrysler 300C wanted.
From: "Owen & Jo Grigg" <ram300@xxxxxxxxxx>
8. Detroit sighting
From: paul holmgren <paulholm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
9. 1962 Chevy versus 300H
From: quentsmith@xxxxxxx
10. Re:1962 magazines
From: "a61300g" <a61300g@xxxxxxxxxxx>
11. black C300 in Nashville,Ga.
From: "Johnnie Slayton" <Jslayton@xxxxxxxxxx>
12. RE: 1962 Chevy versus 300H
From: "Laurence G. Johnson" <laurence_g_johnson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 09:22:16 EST
From: trkosky@xxxxxxx
Subject: Hi Everyone in Chryslerland!
Hi Everyone in Chryslerland!
Got a strange request here. Does anyone know where I might find a
Kennedy/Johnson bumper sticker for my 59 300E? Any suggestions?
Happy Chryslering!
Tom
Miami, Florida
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 16:25:15 +0000
From: ronbo97@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Hi Everyone in Chryslerland!
ebay.
> Hi Everyone in Chryslerland!
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> Got a strange request here. Does anyone know where I might find a
> Kennedy/Johnson bumper sticker for my 59 300E? Any suggestions?
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> Happy Chryslering!
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> Tom
> Miami, Florida
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 05:56:37 +1300
From: "Dave Agnew" <Fnnutz@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Hi Everyone in Chryslerland!
Tom..........
Google is a great source for 'strange' requests !
Try these...........
Cheerz..........
Dave
http://ronwade.freeservers.com/jfkmemorabilia.html
http://www.google.co.nz/search?q=cache:cJyPaxHguwEJ:ronwade.freeservers.com/bumpersticker1.html+kennedy+johnson+bumper+sticker&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
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To: <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 3:22 AM
Subject: [Chrysler300] Hi Everyone in Chryslerland!
Hi Everyone in Chryslerland!
Got a strange request here. Does anyone know where I might find a
Kennedy/Johnson bumper sticker for my 59 300E? Any suggestions?
Happy Chryslering!
Tom
Miami, Florida
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 11:10:25 -0600
From: Ray Jones <hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Hi Everyone in Chryslerland!
You can find most anything on eBay. Try a search for exactly what you want
and if few or no hits, than go slowly more generic, less specific. Also
look at "Check My other Auctions", or "Visit my eBay Store" for each auction
page you look at. Often the seller has a store and the items aren't all
listed for auction.
You'll find it
--
Ray Jones, Jones Ridge, in the Ouachita Mtns near Mena, Western Arkansas
> From: trkosky@xxxxxxx
> Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 09:22:16 EST
> To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [Chrysler300] Hi Everyone in Chryslerland!
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> Hi Everyone in Chryslerland!
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> Got a strange request here. Does anyone know where I might find a
> Kennedy/Johnson bumper sticker for my 59 300E? Any suggestions?
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> Happy Chryslering!
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> Tom
> Miami, Florida
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 11:24:38 -0600
From: Ray Jones <hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: What makes a 300 "real"??
I gotta answer this!
Jo Ann and I had a '61 Chevy Impala SS Conv with a factory 409/425+ and 4
speed. We bought this in 1962 with the Certificate Of Origin, never titled.
It was first owned but never titled by a gas station who raced it at US 30
Drag-a-way inear York, PA.
We ran it all summer in 62 at US 30 Drag-a-way. During the week, it was Jo's
kid carrage (and she wasn't afraid to kick butt).
Somewhere, I have a strip ticket from a run against a 300H, and I think I
got out at the end and waited for him...just kidding. But I did beat him by
several seconds. I usually ran in the 13's.
That car was one of 7 built, and I had to put a 327 in it to sell it some
years later! If only I knew!!!
Hope to see you all at the Spring Meet, Ray
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Ray Jones, Jones Ridge, in the Ouachita Mtns near Mena, Western Arkansas
> From: "PaddyCaddy ." <paddycaddy@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 06:02:26 -0500
> To: flip7@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] What makes a 300 "real"??
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> Tha't's interesting....
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> I wonder if anyone out there has any old magazines with road tests from '62
> ????
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> I really am curious (honestly) how a 1962 BelAir bubbletop with a 409/425
> would do in a drag race against a 62 300 ........
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> If not - maybe we have ourselves a great idea for one of the meets this
> summer. (?)
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> Heck - even I would show up for that one !
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> well, maybe.......
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> Sean.
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>> From: "Chris and TJ" <flip7@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] What makes a 300 "real"??
>> Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 20:11:07 -0800
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>> Geeze, I thought all this time it was about styling and character. Guess
>> it's time to throw in the hobby towel and break out the gloves so I can
>> get
>> the extra required 30 cubic inches and crossram under the hood. Sure I'd
>> like it to be a letter car, but I'd rather have my 300 than any of the ugly
>> underpowered Chevys from 62.
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>> PS. Please don't tell Mr Exner!
>>
>> Chris Filipietz
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>> 62-300
>> 383-2B, 4-door, non-auction red (Dove Grey), bench seat, half(?)-brute.
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 11:59:33 -0800
From: "Jack and Sandra" <sanjac@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: remove from group mailing
please temporarily remove this email address (sanjac@xxxxxxxxx) from the group mail out. I will be away for approximately 3 months and the emails really add up. Thanks Jack Dumont
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:14:38 +1300
From: "Owen & Jo Grigg" <ram300@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: 1957 Chrysler 300C wanted.
Hi
I have a friend looking to buy a 300C. Will look at anything from a good project car to a nice original or restored one up to 30k. He's not a computer guy, so please email me off list and I'll pass them on.
Thanks!
Owen
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 20:41:43 -0500
From: paul holmgren <paulholm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Detroit sighting
According to a friend of mine there is a nice 300G convertable
on display in the showroom of Anderson Dodge in the Detroit area.
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Paul Holmgren
Hoosier Corps #33, L-6
2 57 300-C's in Indy
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 21:04:36 EST
From: quentsmith@xxxxxxx
Subject: 1962 Chevy versus 300H
Detroit Dragway in 1962 had a match race with Don Nicholson and his 1962
Chevy 409 Hardtop 4 Speed with the special roof making a run against a Dodge 413.
The RamChargers car had only a three speed manual transmission in it.
The first race found the Dodge beating the Chevy by about five to
seven car lengths. The crowd went nuts.
In the second race the Dodge took off with a huge lead, about three
car lengths before blowing the one to two shift and lost the race by about six
feet.
The Dodge running was a two door sedan running the B body.
The third and final run was a repeat of the second race with the
RamCharger's driver missing the one to two shift after another huge starting lead.
The car lost the race by about two feet. Dodge definitely had the power and
the speed to deal with the Chevy even with the disadvantage of the three speed
manual. It was not long after that the Dodges and Plymouths had four speed
manuals available. Lurking in the wings was the Torqueflite transmission that won
a ton of match and sanctioned races.
The 300 H would not be able to compete with the Dodge because of
weight. Hot Rod magazine ran a 300 H in the 1962 year but it did not run Super
Stock like the B body Dodges and Plymouths.
Quentin Smith (My father was a Chrysler Engineer)
300C, H, RamK
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 21:24:44 -0500
From: "a61300g" <a61300g@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re:1962 magazines
Sean,
this is your lucky day. I happen to have magazines from 1962 on up and
here's what I found: Chevrolet introduced the bored out 348 c.i. as a 409
c.i. / 360hp / 409 lb/ft / 11.25c.r. ( RPO#580 ) option on the 1961 Impala
SS models of which 142 were built. In 1962 they increased the hp to 380 and
420 lb / ft torque / 11.00 c.r. ( RPO #580 again ) to begin the model year
and later boosted it to 409 / 409 / 420 @11.00 c..r which Car Life magazine
tested in the Sept. 1962 issue driven by owner / racer Frank Sanders of
Phoenix, Az. He ran 12.22 e.t @ 115 mph at Pomona in June 1962. Of course
it was set up to his specs for racing only with a 4-spd xmsn, 4.56 rearend,
modified springs, shocks, tires, etc. Writer of the test claims Frank was
the fastest shifter he'd ever seen and was a full half-second faster than
any of their test drivers. Nov. 1962 Hot Rod lists Dave Strickler from
York, Pa winning the 1962 Nat'ls at Indy in the SS/S class in a 62' 409 (
Old Reliable ) with 12.97 e.t. and 113.35 mph. Sadly, Dave switched to Dodge
in 1964 and was eliminated in the 1st round by Bobby Harrop, even though his
e.t was quicker at 11.33 to Harrop's 11.66. Hot Rod magazine itself ran a
1962 Plymouth in SS / SA losing to Ramchargers Dodge in class eliminations
and to Bill "Maverick" Golden in his 62 Dodge in Stock Eliminator with the
fastest e.t. recorded for stock cars at 12.37 in an earlier run. Back the
the bow-ties, in 1963 there were four hp offerings for the 409: 340, 400,
425, and 430. According to http://chevysupersports.com/Impala61-64.htm the
1961 409 / 360 tested by Motor Trend ran the 1/4 at 14.02 @ 98.14 mph w /
4.56 gears, or about a two seconds faster than the 300H which as we all know
gave up a few ( hundred ) pounds in the weight dept. In other words, it got
its butt kicked... seem to remember a national tour ( exhibition ) involving
said 409 bubbletop and a super stock Dodge and I think the Dodge won most of
the races. A more balanced pairing there. Hope that answers some of your
questions.
Del Kerney
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 21:25:59 -0500
From: "Johnnie Slayton" <Jslayton@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: black C300 in Nashville,Ga.
I didn't buy the C300 in Ga. as the owner felt that the fact that I
bought a complete car, then was informed the batwing was missing should
not change the price of the car.The man did refund my money,no
problem.Should anyone out there be interested in this car,they might
want to Email me. Johnnie Slayton
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 23:03:54 -0500
From: "Laurence G. Johnson" <laurence_g_johnson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: 1962 Chevy versus 300H
This race was covered in the old Super Stock magazine (Before it was Super
Stock and Drag Illustrated). I may still have the magazine if I look through
my junk. The unique thing about the Dodge was that it was NOT a Max Wedge.
It used service package cylinder heads with 2.08 intakes and 1.74 exhausts
(a forerunner of the 300J head), a 292 degree flat tappet cam, and long ram
intake manifolding (the 405 horse versions with the short dividers). I don't
know how they shoehorned the long manifolds into the B body, but they did
somehow.
I saw the same car at the '62 Indy Nationals, this time equipped with the
Torqueflite. I was seated in the grandstand directly behind the starting
line where the timing tower now sits. I could clearly see the long rams when
they opened the hood to cool the engine between rounds. NHRA hot lapped the
Super Stock field so the Ramchargers were pouring water over the radiator
while pushing it back to the starting line. By the time they reached the
finals the Dodge was steaming hot and ran poorly. They were beaten in the
final by Hayden Profitt's 409, but the Dodge was much stronger than any of
the 409's when the engine was cool in the early rounds.
>From: quentsmith@xxxxxxx
>To: chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [Chrysler300] 1962 Chevy versus 300H
>Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 21:04:36 EST
>Detroit Dragway in 1962 had a match race with Don Nicholson and his 1962
>Chevy 409 Hardtop 4 Speed with the special roof making a run against a
>Dodge 413.
>The RamChargers car had only a three speed manual transmission in it.
>
> The first race found the Dodge beating the Chevy by about five to
>seven car lengths. The crowd went nuts.
>
> In the second race the Dodge took off with a huge lead, about three
>car lengths before blowing the one to two shift and lost the race by about
>six
>feet.
>
> The Dodge running was a two door sedan running the B body.
>
> The third and final run was a repeat of the second race with the
>RamCharger's driver missing the one to two shift after another huge
>starting lead.
>The car lost the race by about two feet. Dodge definitely had the power and
>the speed to deal with the Chevy even with the disadvantage of the three
>speed
>manual. It was not long after that the Dodges and Plymouths had four speed
>manuals available. Lurking in the wings was the Torqueflite transmission
>that won
>a ton of match and sanctioned races.
>
> The 300 H would not be able to compete with the Dodge because of
>weight. Hot Rod magazine ran a 300 H in the 1962 year but it did not run
>Super
>Stock like the B body Dodges and Plymouths.
>
> Quentin Smith (My father was a Chrysler Engineer)
> 300C, H, RamK
>
>
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