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- Date: 7 Feb 2004 12:24:00 -0000
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There are 21 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Chrysler 300 Deluxe???
From: Russ Vaughan <Pacesetter300@xxxxxxxxx>
2. RE: assembly line photo
From: "Wieland, Elizabeth" <EWieland@xxxxxxxxxx>
3. Chrysler 300 Hemi C 2005
From: "Rusty & Thelma Roe" <saxblowr@xxxxxxxx>
4. Re: assembly line photo
From: moparpjf@xxxxxxx
5. RE: assembly line photo
From: <john_nowosacki@xxxxxxxxxxx>
6. Re: Chrysler 300 Deluxe???
From: "chris davis" <pngkid@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
7. Re: assembly line photo
From: moparpjf@xxxxxxx
8. Clarification Please! Chrysler 300 Hemi C 2005
From: "Jess" <jpmiklas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
9. Re: Clarification Please! Chrysler 300 Hemi C 2005
From: Andy Mikonis <r41hp@xxxxxxxxx>
10. Re: Clarification Please! Chrysler 300 Hemi C 2005
From: "Jess" <jpmiklas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
11. Re: Clarification Please! Chrysler 300 Hemi C 2005
From: moparpjf@xxxxxxx
12. Re: Clarification Please! Chrysler 300 Hemi C 2005
From: Andy Mikonis <r41hp@xxxxxxxxx>
13. Re: Chrysler 300 Deluxe???
From: jp300hurst@xxxxxxx
14. Re: Chrysler 300 Deluxe???
From: fastedgie@xxxxxxx
15. Re: Clarification Please! Chrysler 300 Hemi C 2005
From: fastedgie@xxxxxxx
16. Re: Chrysler 300 Hemi C 2005
From: "Tom Barrett" <tfb2@xxxxxxx>
17. torsion bars
From: greg moore <gdmoore@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
18. Re: torsion bars
From: <fabe7445@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
19. Re: torsion bars
From: <fabe7445@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
20. Re: assembly line photo
From: lettercars@xxxxxxx
21. new 300 Hemi C
From: "Rusty & Thelma Roe" <saxblowr@xxxxxxxx>
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 05:59:28 -0800 (PST)
From: Russ Vaughan <Pacesetter300@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Chrysler 300 Deluxe???
Hi group, Curiosity has the best of me. Has anyone ever heard of a 300 "deluxe"? I'm thinking this emblem on eBay is for a 60's Chevy II not a Chrysler, but the numbers look to be the same style used by Chrysler. Any insight amongst the braintrust??
300ly
Russ Vaughan
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6763&item=2458652836
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 09:35:48 -0500
From: "Wieland, Elizabeth" <EWieland@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: assembly line photo
Pete, are you saying you want to be known as an F-man?
Elizabeth Wieland
-----Original Message-----
From: moparpjf@xxxxxxx [mailto:moparpjf@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 8:26 PM
To: DC300G@xxxxxxx; Lettercars@xxxxxxx; Signboy@xxxxxxxxxxx;
Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] assembly line photo
In a message dated 2/5/2004 8:24:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, DC300G@xxxxxxx
writes:
I just want the group to know I am 300G -man
Thanks David Clelland
Yeah, right! A 300-G man bidding on F stuff.
Pete Fitch
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 08:19:42 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time)
From: "Rusty & Thelma Roe" <saxblowr@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Chrysler 300 Hemi C 2005
Yesterday my wife and I went to the Portland Oregon International car show.....they had a silver 2005 Chrysler 300 Hemi C.........found out that it replaces 3 of the present Chrysler sedans currently made........any car buyer looking for a bigger 4 door sedan will be able to buy one of these in three different engine sizes.........2 v6 models and the Hemi ........the Hemi produces 340 horses and is available with a 5 speed or automatic.........the car has sort of an upside down 300C grill but is real square and blocky looking.....as far as new cars go it looks as good if not better than most but it would have been real neat with FINS on the back fenders..........I'm sure they could have added some fins but what the heck does the modern generation know about a real car anyway........Rusty & Thelma 300C Parade Green coupe in Oregon!!!!!!!!!!
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 11:25:39 EST
From: moparpjf@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: assembly line photo
In a message dated 2/6/2004 9:44:10 AM Eastern Standard Time,
EWieland@xxxxxxxxxx writes:
Pete, are you saying you want to be known as an F-man?
Elizabeth Wieland
Nope - not me - I'm a G guy all the way. It is getting so that everyone has
an F convert these days - I just thought that Mr. 300-G looking for F parts
was a bit of contradiction in terms. Of course, if anyone has a pair of F side
medallion bezels, I can use them.
Pete
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 09:30:07 -0700
From: <john_nowosacki@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: assembly line photo
I don't know Pete all that well, but I bet puny 14" wheels, toilet seats, and obsolete generators aren't his cup of tea ;-)
John, another G guy
-----Original Message-----
From: moparpjf@xxxxxxx [mailto:moparpjf@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 11:26 AM
To: EWieland@xxxxxxxxxx; Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] assembly line photo
In a message dated 2/6/2004 9:44:10 AM Eastern Standard Time,
EWieland@xxxxxxxxxx writes:
Pete, are you saying you want to be known as an F-man?
Elizabeth Wieland
Nope - not me - I'm a G guy all the way. It is getting so that everyone has
an F convert these days - I just thought that Mr. 300-G looking for F parts
was a bit of contradiction in terms. Of course, if anyone has a pair of F side
medallion bezels, I can use them.
Pete
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 11:05:04 -0600
From: "chris davis" <pngkid@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Chrysler 300 Deluxe???
My guess would be the Ford 300.
c. davis
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From: Russ Vaughan <Pacesetter300@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 7:59 AM
Subject: [Chrysler300] Chrysler 300 Deluxe???
> Hi group, Curiosity has the best of me. Has anyone ever heard of a 300
"deluxe"? I'm thinking this emblem on eBay is for a 60's Chevy II not a
Chrysler, but the numbers look to be the same style used by Chrysler. Any
insight amongst the braintrust??
>
> 300ly
>
> Russ Vaughan
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6763&item=
2458652836
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 13:09:14 EST
From: moparpjf@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: assembly line photo
In a message dated 2/6/2004 12:29:39 PM Eastern Standard Time,
john_nowosacki@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
I don't know Pete all that well, but I bet puny 14" wheels, toilet seats, and
obsolete generators aren't his cup of tea ;-)
John, another G guy
John: Thank you for your support (but I would still take a pair of "F" side
medallion bezels)
Pete
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 13:50:44 -0500
From: "Jess" <jpmiklas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Clarification Please! Chrysler 300 Hemi C 2005
I understand the new HemiC 300 comes with a 5-speed automatic, but are you
saying you were told that a 5 speed manual is available with the hemi?
Jeff Miklas
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From: "Rusty & Thelma Roe" <saxblowr@xxxxxxxx>
To: <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 11:19 AM
Subject: [Chrysler300] Chrysler 300 Hemi C 2005
Yesterday my wife and I went to the Portland Oregon International car
show.....they had a silver 2005 Chrysler 300 Hemi C.........found out that
it replaces 3 of the present Chrysler sedans currently made........any car
buyer looking for a bigger 4 door sedan will be able to buy one of these in
three different engine sizes.........2 v6 models and the Hemi ........the
Hemi produces 340 horses and is available with a 5 speed or
automatic.........the car has sort of an upside down 300C grill but is real
square and blocky looking.....as far as new cars go it looks as good if not
better than most but it would have been real neat with FINS on the back
fenders..........I'm sure they could have added some fins but what the heck
does the modern generation know about a real car anyway........Rusty &
Thelma 300C Parade Green coupe in Oregon!!!!!!!!!!
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 11:21:42 -0800 (PST)
From: Andy Mikonis <r41hp@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Clarification Please! Chrysler 300 Hemi C 2005
Let's stop this one before we get everybody worked up.
The answer is "NO!"
This straight from Chrysler:
"Chrysler 300C and Dodge Magnum RT will be equipped
with the first five-speed automatic transmission ever
offered in a Chrysler Group passenger car...
This five-speed automatic transmission is standard
equipment with the 5.7-liter HEMI® V-8 engine on the
rear-wheel drive 2005 Chrysler 300C and Dodge Magnum
RT. It is a DaimlerChrysler transmission built at the
Indiana Transmission Plant II in Kokomo, Indiana... "
Andy
--- Jess <jpmiklas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I understand the new HemiC 300 comes with a 5-speed
> automatic, but are you
> saying you were told that a 5 speed manual is
> available with the hemi?
>
> Jeff Miklas
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 15:00:39 -0500
From: "Jess" <jpmiklas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Clarification Please! Chrysler 300 Hemi C 2005
Thanks Andy for the clarification. I Knew in my gut that DC would not build
it right, but as the say "hope springs blah blah...."
JM
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From: "Andy Mikonis" <r41hp@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Jess" <jpmiklas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Clarification Please! Chrysler 300 Hemi C 2005
> Let's stop this one before we get everybody worked up.
> The answer is "NO!"
>
> This straight from Chrysler:
>
> "Chrysler 300C and Dodge Magnum RT will be equipped
> with the first five-speed automatic transmission ever
> offered in a Chrysler Group passenger car...
> This five-speed automatic transmission is standard
> equipment with the 5.7-liter HEMI® V-8 engine on the
> rear-wheel drive 2005 Chrysler 300C and Dodge Magnum
> RT. It is a DaimlerChrysler transmission built at the
> Indiana Transmission Plant II in Kokomo, Indiana... "
>
> Andy
>
> --- Jess <jpmiklas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > I understand the new HemiC 300 comes with a 5-speed
> > automatic, but are you
> > saying you were told that a 5 speed manual is
> > available with the hemi?
> >
> > Jeff Miklas
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 15:22:42 EST
From: moparpjf@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Clarification Please! Chrysler 300 Hemi C 2005
In a message dated 2/6/2004 2:31:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, r41hp@xxxxxxxxx
writes:
Let's stop this one before we get everybody worked up.
The answer is "NO!"
This straight from Chrysler:
"Chrysler 300C and Dodge Magnum RT will be equipped
with the first five-speed automatic transmission ever
offered in a Chrysler Group passenger car...
This five-speed automatic transmission is standard
equipment with the 5.7-liter HEMI® V-8 engine on the
rear-wheel drive 2005 Chrysler 300C and Dodge Magnum
RT. It is a DaimlerChrysler transmission built at the
Indiana Transmission Plant II in Kokomo, Indiana... "
Andy
--- Jess <jpmiklas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I understand the new HemiC 300 comes with a 5-speed
> automatic, but are you
> saying you were told that a 5 speed manual is
> available with the hemi?
>
> Jeff Miklas
But they DO have a 5 speed stick somewhere, because it is the ONLY
transmission you can get in the V-10 equipped truck. Since they have it, I would
imagine that they will use it elsewhere eventually.
Pete Fitch
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 12:40:17 -0800 (PST)
From: Andy Mikonis <r41hp@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Clarification Please! Chrysler 300 Hemi C 2005
Sorry, Pete. The V-10 powered Ram SRT-10 has a SIX
speed manual, just like the Viper. Doesn't mean it'll
bolt to a 5.7 Hemi Magnum. They have a manual for the
HEMI in a 3/4 truck, but why would Chrysler spend big
bucks on a super high-tech automatic for their luxury
car and then offer a truck transmission? I'd be 1961
all over again with a taxicab transmission in a 300G.
Americans hardly buy any manuals anymore, anyway. I'd
be shocked if the new 300 ever got one.
This all proves "we" the original 300 enthusuasts,
will never be happy with a new Chrysler. You guys
want fins. Yep, the old 300's had 'em... unless you
have a 300L. What percentage of letter cars had a
manual transmission anyway? Not a big part of the 300
experience for most people.
Love,
Andy
> But they DO have a 5 speed stick somewhere, because
> it is the ONLY
> transmission you can get in the V-10 equipped truck.
> Since they have it, I would
> imagine that they will use it elsewhere eventually.
>
> Pete Fitch
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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 15:53:01 EST
From: jp300hurst@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Chrysler 300 Deluxe???
It's an "El Cheapo" Chevelle or Malibu, whatever they decided to call them in
that peticular year.&nbsp;
John
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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 17:46:25 EST
From: fastedgie@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Chrysler 300 Deluxe???
Yes,
If was authentic Chrysler, it would have to have been a "Special Deluxe".
Ed
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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 18:00:10 EST
From: fastedgie@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Clarification Please! Chrysler 300 Hemi C 2005
The real story of that 5 speed automatic is that it is identical to the
transmission used in the Mercedes E class. In fact the entire drive train, brakes
and steering column are right out of the E-Class.
Don't believe me, then go test drive an E-Class and then a 300 C Hemi.
Electric tilt and telescopic steering and the smoothest transmission we have ever
seen in a Chrysler. Oh, and I forgot to mention, the hardest seats we have ever
felt in a Chrysler. But that's to keep us humble and to constantly remind us
of the current foreign decision makers at the former mighty Chrysler
Corporation of America!
Too bad it's so ugly. Fins would have been nice. It does lend itself well to
a full vinyl roof. And "wide whites" would really set it off.
Maybe it will become the first Hemi Pimpmobile from Chrysler.
Ed
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Message: 16
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 18:11:04 -0500
From: "Tom Barrett" <tfb2@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Chrysler 300 Hemi C 2005
I saw the 300C in person for the first time at the Detroit Auto Show last
month. My thought is that it is not as bad looking up close in person, as
it is in photographs. But then again, did you ever see a brand new car that
was not nice looking? They even smell good!
This car has a high beltline. Which means the window sills are even higher,
or the roof, in relation to the windows is proportionally lower. The net
effect being, the side window glass is not as tall as you might expect to
find on a modern day, full size car. I did not sit in the car, much less
drive it, so I don't know if driving safety is comprised for design sake.
The high beltline on the car reminds me of "Old Uncle High-water", who
pulled his pants up inches over his belly button, and then buckled his belt.
The design change itself - 2004 300M to 2005 300C - reminds me of the design
change from 1956 to 1957, quite a radical change. Only now, the change is
the other way around. The 2004 is a modern looking design, and the 2005
seems like a step backward in design.
As for Automatic Transmission versus Stick Shift Transmission - I haven't
wanted anything but an Automatic since the 426 Hemi's w/Automatic
Transmissions ruled the Dragstrips in the early 60's.
Regards,
Tom Barrett
300 C
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From: "Rusty & Thelma Roe" saxblowr@xxxxxxxx
To: <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 11:19 AM
Subject: [Chrysler300] Chrysler 300 Hemi C 2005
Yesterday my wife and I went to the Portland Oregon International car
show.....they had a silver 2005 Chrysler 300 Hemi C.........found out that
it replaces 3 of the present Chrysler sedans currently made........any car
buyer looking for a bigger 4 door sedan will be able to buy one of these in
three different engine sizes.........2 v6 models and the Hemi ........the
Hemi produces 340 horses and is available with a 5 speed or
automatic.........the car has sort of an upside down 300C grill but is real
square and blocky looking.....as far as new cars go it looks as good if not
better than most but it would have been real neat with FINS on the back
fenders..........I'm sure they could have added some fins but what the heck
does the modern generation know about a real car anyway........Rusty &
Thelma 300C Parade Green coupe in Oregon!!!!!!!!!!
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Message: 17
Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 15:52:10 -0800
From: greg moore <gdmoore@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: torsion bars
Is there a source for replacement torsion bars?
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Message: 18
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 20:06:24 -0500
From: <fabe7445@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: torsion bars
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> From: greg moore <gdmoore@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 2004/02/06 Fri PM 06:52:10 EST
> To: "chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [Chrysler300] torsion bars
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> Is there a source for replacement torsion bars?
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Message: 19
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 20:11:44 -0500
From: <fabe7445@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: torsion bars
> Made a mistake, it's classifieds@xxxxxxxxxxx
Jim
> From: greg moore <gdmoore@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 2004/02/06 Fri PM 06:52:10 EST
> To: "chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [Chrysler300] torsion bars
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> Is there a source for replacement torsion bars?
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Message: 20
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 21:54:59 EST
From: lettercars@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: assembly line photo
Hi All:
Just so you can rest easy-----Dave Clelland does also have an F----a triple
black (888) convertible recently discovered. 300ly, Gil
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Message: 21
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2004 00:03:51 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time)
From: "Rusty & Thelma Roe" <saxblowr@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: new 300 Hemi C
In reference to my earlier report on the 2005 Chrysler Hemi C........I just looked at the literature for the new Hemi C and it just shows 5 speed auto......I remembered the Chrysler dealer saying 5 speed and must have missed the "auto" word........just wishful thinking on my part.........the 300's with the v6 motors get a 4 speed automatic..........sorry about the confusion and for getting some of you gear-thrashers all excited..............Rusty in Oregon
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