There are 5 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: 69 Roadrunner
From: Mike Apfelbeck <moparmike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
2. Re:
From: Mike Apfelbeck <moparmike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
3. RE: 57 Wagon D500 9 pass
From: "jennifer allyn" <gearhead.girl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
4. Re: 69 Roadrunner
From: moparted <moparted_70@xxxxxxxxx>
5. Seeking Truck/Race Exhaust Manif.
From: "Wayne Graefen" <wgraefen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:40:45 -0800
From: Mike Apfelbeck <moparmike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: 69 Roadrunner
I remember seeing a '68, back in the old days, with a 440 4Bbl engine.
Sure
looked like a factory setup, but who knows for sure.
Mike
At 02:15 PM 12/25/2003 -0800, Val Jeffers wrote:
>With this being a "non 300 question" please don't chastise me too badly.
>Was the above available with a 440 4barrel and if so what was the alpha
>designation in the VIN ? I've been looking for one but possibly in vain ?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Val Jeffers
>/
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:59:57 -0800
From: Mike Apfelbeck <moparmike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re:
The dwell angle is 32 degrees, 42 degrees with dual points. Place a thin
piece of paper between one set , while you adjust the other one. I like
to
adjust points while turning the engine over with the starter, with the
spark plugs removed, it will spin fast enough to get an accurate dwell
reading that way. The vacuum line should be disconnected with the idle set
around 650 rpms. The marks on the scale should be about 2 degrees each,
you
may have to "play around" with the timing setting to get the best results
with today's fuel. Valve lash should be set with each cylinder at top dead
center on the firing stroke.
Mike
At 08:42 PM 12/25/2003 +0100, TUROVAARA TOMAS wrote:
>Does anyone know the distibutor pont gap,Cam angle and ignition timing
did
>I have to disconnecting the vacuum line how many degrees are each mark on
>the metal pad I using a timing lamp how many RPM shuold the engine idle
>when adjusting.
>How adjusting the valve lash clearens.
>Merry Christmas to all
>
>Tomas Turovaara
>Kiruna- SWEDEN
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 11:22:18 -0800
From: "jennifer allyn" <gearhead.girl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: 57 Wagon D500 9 pass
We have a 1962 New Yorker Town & Country station wagon. It was a six
passenger and we found a third seat to convert it to a nine passenger. (We
needed the room for our friends.) It has a 413 with a single 4bbl. They
built 732 of the 6 passenger and 735 of the nine passenger or something
like
that. I only know of four...ours, John Hertog's, guy in Germany and one I
saw under a tarp in a driveway near our house in CA. They are rare and
parts can be challenging.
You are right. Most wagons were considered below 4 doors by collectors.
I
am sure most were junked or used for parts. I certainly don't see many.
Now, it is the car that attracts the most attention, bar none. I drive it
daily and people stop me to comment literally everywhere I go. It gets
more
looks than my 300 or our '55 Cadillac Eldo convert. It is simply the Good
Humor mobile. Car people love it. Non-car people love it. The Police
love
it and let me go...because after it does have a 413 under the hood...and
only weighs 300lbs more than my 300. Moms love the fact I have three boys
in a row in three car seats...try that in a modern car.
Buy the car. It is wonderful to drive a wagon. And handy too...I use it
to
carry all sorts of things. My bet is you won't see another.
Jennifer Allyn
-----Original Message-----
From: KELLY PIERCE [mailto:jkrestor300@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2003 10:28 PM
To: chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Jay R
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] 57 Wagon D500 9 pass
Merry Christmas All!
I would love to find a wagon like this! First Dodge with the rear
facing
rear seat, D-500 option, Forward Look car, fins,torsion bars,
etc.etc......"All of the 57 Dodges with three seats featured a rear facing
third seat called a "Spectator" seat." (from page 184 The Dodge Story,
Thomas McPherson, copyright 1975) 34,2110 four door station wagons
built.On
page 218 of standard catalog of Chrysler, 1914-2000, second edition, list
that 500 Dodge D-500 models were scheduled. Apprx. 101 cars were fitted
with
the D-501 engine option as well.
Is the car a single or dual 4bbl.? Both were 325 cid, one 4bbl was the
D-500, dual 4's was the Super D-500. D-501 was a 354 w/dual 4's.
How rare today? I'd say very, as most wagons were not saved or at best
used to fix sweptside pick-ups, converts, hardtops, etc, so few were saved
just because they were wagons. Until about 5-10 years ago, few cared, now
wagons are becoming very popular.
Value? If you believe Old Car Price Guide, everything is valuable, from
my experience in my area of the U.S. it is 35-60% high, depending on the
car. OCPG lists the 57 9 pass. wagon at in condition 5 at $1944.00 plus
30%
for D-500 option, About $2525.00. IssueFeb.2004,volume 27, No.1.
Consider the difficulty in finding station wagon specific parts, labor,
shipping etc. and into that how bad do you want it and your financial
resources. I find it hard at times to think with my head and bank account
in
mind instead of my heart.....
Go for it if you can get it reasonable! Quite a rare piece of Mopar
history. Keep me posted, I am really interested in how you come out, if
you
get it etc.
Joe Pierce 300J(parts)Kx3+M+the "one of none"64 300 9pass.wagon(in
progress)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jay R" <robodoc57@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2003 10:42 PM
Subject: [Chrysler300] 57 Wagon D500 9 pass
> Merry Christmass to all,
> I am considering the purchase of a 1957 Dodge Wagon D 500 Spectator
> Edition. The car is all there but needs a total resto. It has the 325
hemi
> (not running) Some body rust and the floors are bad. I can't find much
info
> on the D 500 production, other than it was said to be approximately
around
> 5%?? All the trim is there. Any help on the production numbers and value
> would be appreciated. I would not consider a restoration if it wasn't a
D
> 500. I don't remember ever seeing one. Thanks for your help.
> Jay
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 12:41:33 -0800 (PST)
From: moparted <moparted_70@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: 69 Roadrunner
sorry, it wasn't factory
--- Mike Apfelbeck <moparmike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I remember seeing a '68, back in the old days, with
> a 440 4Bbl engine. Sure
> looked like a factory setup, but who knows for sure.
> Mike
>
> At 02:15 PM 12/25/2003 -0800, Val Jeffers wrote:
> >With this being a "non 300 question" please don't
> chastise me too badly.
> >Was the above available with a 440 4barrel and if
> so what was the alpha
> >designation in the VIN ? I've been looking for one
> but possibly in vain ?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Val Jeffers
> >/
>
>
>
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:27:46 -0600
From: "Wayne Graefen" <wgraefen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Seeking Truck/Race Exhaust Manif.
I am looking for one of the 354 hemi truck and 300B-300D performance
exhaust manifolds with the 4-bolt flange that has a flattened "ram's horn"
area for clearance in the '57-58 cars to the steering box and right front
suspension. I have an NOS full ram's horn type to trade.
This is quite hard to describe the difference between the full and
flattened ram's horn styles and they ALL are cast with the same casting
number so that is of no help. If you would like a photo showing the two
styles for comparison and verification, email me and ask.
wgraefen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Wayne
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