There are 7 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. 300C Data Plate Clarification and Apology
From: "Wayne Graefen" <wgraefen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
2. Re: [FWDLK] 58 Dodge Bendix EFI
From: jlsavard@xxxxxxx
3. Chrysler @ Bob Hope Desert Classic
From: Redwoodlse@xxxxxxx
4. RE: Chrysler @ Bob Hope Desert Classic
From: Doug Warrener <dwarrener@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
5. Re: 300C Data Plate Clarification and Apology
From: "Vincent Helbling" <vhelbling@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
6. Spark plug wires
From: News4ge@xxxxxxx
7. Re: Spark plug wires
From: paul holmgren <paulholm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:47:35 -0600
From: "Wayne Graefen" <wgraefen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: 300C Data Plate Clarification and Apology
Okay, I'm embarrassed. When the question first came up about what "BODY"
numbers meant on the 300C data plate, I actually answered correctly. Then
I got a quick mail from a member pointing out that I had probably
misunderstood the question and so I sent this list a correction that was
really wrong! Now I've got to stand here and take any stones you wish to
throw for my misleading statements.
ON THE DATA PLATE:
" MDL " should show beneath it either " 563 " for a convertible model or "
566 " for a hardtop model. If any other number is there you either have
an incorrect plate for your 300C or what you think has always been a 300C
started out as a lesser model such as a New Yorker.
" BODY " will show beneath it the sequential production number of that
particular body shell. This number is NOT directly relevant to the VIN
(Vehicle Identification Number) other than lower numbers being produced
earlier in the year and higher being later.
I apologize for the confusion I have caused some of you, particularly
Vince Helbling who raised the initial question to the list.
INCOMING! Stones!
Wayne Graefen
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 11:59:41 EST
From: jlsavard@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] 58 Dodge Bendix EFI
In a message dated 12/22/2003 4:26:33 AM Eastern Standard Time,
pontiac@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
This makes me curious - can someone explain how the Bendix EFI unit worked
(okay, given they were recalled, how it was intended to operate) without
writing a book on the subject?
OK, here I go...... And please pardon the cross-post to C300 Club members.
For reference, see the excellent photos at the noted website.
http://www.chrysler300club.com/jhstuff/fuelie/fuelie.html
They were controlled by a "solid state" unit which was mounted in front of
the radiator shell for cooling. This unit was in the direct airstream to
receive maximum airflow. It also received rain, snow, sleet, salt and
bugs! All
sensor input (temperature, atmospheric pressure, engine speed, etc.) was
fed
into this unit which determined just how long each (Fixed orifice)
injector unit
had to stay open to achieve a proper fuel/air ratio. This information was
then fed to a second distributor unit (see Photo, mounted beside the
distributor.) which routed the pulses to the injector units. This unit
was geared to the
distributor drive.
Fuel was supplied by an electric pump mounted in the gas tank. It
constantly
recirculated at a pressure of 30 psi., and the left-overs were returned to
the fuel tank. The fuel supply pipes mounted on the engine are a complete
circle fed from both ends in order to not starve injectors at the "End of
the
line". Fuel was injected into the manifold at the intake valve, not into
the
combustion chamber.
Two large twin-valve throttle bodies controlled airflow much as the
carburetors used to do.
At that time, Chrysler Engineering was organized into many separate
"Labs".
We (mechanics and technicians) were rigidly unionized and thus required a
loose cooperation between the electronics and the fuel systems labs. We
did all
the hardware stuff and a technician from the electronics lab worked on the
"Black Box". I had the great good fortune to be the mechanic assigned by
the fuel
systems lab to these units from the beginning, since I'd also built and
tested the MECHANICAL system Chrysler built. (Didn't know about that one,
did
you?!) I even got to drive one to Colorado, then Texas and back.
Joe Savard
Lake Orion, MI USA
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 17:13:47 EST
From: Redwoodlse@xxxxxxx
Subject: Chrysler @ Bob Hope Desert Classic
Has anyone been given the nod by the factory to having their car at the
Golf
thingee that was bounced around the list a month or so ago?
Larry W Jett
950 Woodside Road Suite 4
Redwood City CA 94061
650 368 3966
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 15:22:58 -0800
From: Doug Warrener <dwarrener@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Chrysler @ Bob Hope Desert Classic
Larry, I talked with Derek Bilicki from MSX International on Friday. He
said
that no action has been taken by his superiors at their firm even though
he
has had great response from club members. They have not presented anything
to Chrysler. When I asked about timing, he said the exhibit needed to be
set
by Jan. 17 or 18.
-----Original Message-----
From: Redwoodlse@xxxxxxx [mailto:Redwoodlse@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 2:14 PM
To: chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [Chrysler300] Chrysler @ Bob Hope Desert Classic
Has anyone been given the nod by the factory to having their car at the
Golf
thingee that was bounced around the list a month or so ago?
Larry W Jett
950 Woodside Road Suite 4
Redwood City CA 94061
650 368 3966
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:26:06 -0500
From: "Vincent Helbling" <vhelbling@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: 300C Data Plate Clarification and Apology
Wayne no stones just appreciate your help. I thought your first
answer
was correct Vince
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne Graefen" <wgraefen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Intl 300" <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <VHelbling@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 11:47 AM
Subject: [Chrysler300] 300C Data Plate Clarification and Apology
Okay, I'm embarrassed. When the question first came up about what "BODY"
numbers meant on the 300C data plate, I actually answered correctly. Then
I
got a quick mail from a member pointing out that I had probably
misunderstood the question and so I sent this list a correction that was
really wrong! Now I've got to stand here and take any stones you wish to
throw for my misleading statements.
ON THE DATA PLATE:
" MDL " should show beneath it either " 563 " for a convertible model or "
566 " for a hardtop model. If any other number is there you either have
an
incorrect plate for your 300C or what you think has always been a 300C
started out as a lesser model such as a New Yorker.
" BODY " will show beneath it the sequential production number of that
particular body shell. This number is NOT directly relevant to the VIN
(Vehicle Identification Number) other than lower numbers being produced
earlier in the year and higher being later.
I apologize for the confusion I have caused some of you, particularly
Vince
Helbling who raised the initial question to the list.
INCOMING! Stones!
Wayne Graefen
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 23:02:59 EST
From: News4ge@xxxxxxx
Subject: Spark plug wires
J & K Owners:
What have you been doing for plug wires? Do you make them? Has any of
you
found a source of wires that are reasonably good? I just want ot get my
car
running now. I don't care if the color is a little off - just so the
wires fit
and carry sparks.
Thanks,
George Clineman
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 01:22:13 -0500
From: paul holmgren <paulholm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Spark plug wires
News4ge@xxxxxxx wrote:
> J & K Owners:
> What have you been doing for plug wires? Do you make them? Has any of
you
> found a source of wires that are reasonably good? I just want ot get my
car
> running now. I don't care if the color is a little off - just so the
wires fit
> and carry sparks.
> Thanks,
> George Clineman
I got VERY lucky last summer at a swap, Found a particial Roll of Packard
440
sparkplug wire. At one time this was concidered one of the better wires
out
there.
Got some terminlas and made my own out of this stuff.
--
Paul Holmgren
Hoosier Corps #33, L-6
2 57 300-C's in Indy
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