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There are 11 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. 300C Front Brakes (take 3)
From: "Mark Schueller" <f41324@xxxxxxxxxx>
2. Re: Dome light 300F
From: lettercars@xxxxxxx
3. Re: 300C Front Brakes (take 2)
From: "Bob Jasinski" <rpjasin@xxxxxxxxxxx>
4. Re: Pistons
From: mwl1967@xxxxxxx
5. Synthetic Oil Study-FYI
From: "Tom Cox" <tdcox@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
6. Re: High Speed Starters For Chrysler 300s '55-'65
From: Tony Rinaldi <awrdoc@xxxxxxxxx>
7. 57 Brake Return Springs
From: "Elizabeth McCormick" <ejmc300c@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
8. 300G for sale
From: "Charles Heinitz" <ccheinitz@xxxxxxxxxxx>
9. test
From: "Charles Heinitz" <ccheinitz@xxxxxxxxxxx>
10. Re: 300C Brakes- rear
From: "christopher beilby" <thelastbestgenius@xxxxxxxxxxx>
11. Rocker Asm.300D
From: "Deborah B" <dwbuechler@xxxxxxxx>
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 08:51:04 -0500
From: "Mark Schueller" <f41324@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: 300C Front Brakes (take 3)
Greetings 300 Club Members:
Last night I inspected the right front forward brake shoe again and again
and again and found that the shoe rubs against the drum on the ends and
does not touch the drum in the center. This is wrong! Probably causing the
adjusting problem.
It's time to get another shoe relined and try again.
Thanks for the comments and suggestions that keep coming in.
I'll keep you posted.
Mark Schueller
300C,F
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 10:14:43 EDT
From: lettercars@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Dome light 300F
Both the 1960 wiring diagram and the Owner's Manual (glove box manual)
agree
that the dome lights do not come on when the front doors are opened. If
the
car is a four door, and equipped with the rear door switches, then the
dome
lamps will come on when the REAR doors are opened. So, in our 300F
hardtops, the
dome lights are only activated by the dome lamp switch on the instrument
panel. I do not know the rational here, as it would seem convenient to
have
overhead light when entering the rear passenger area in the dark. Such
was not the
case, however. Hope this helps out. 300ly, Gil C.
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 08:02:22 -0700
From: "Bob Jasinski" <rpjasin@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: 300C Front Brakes (take 2)
Mark,
As a 25 year owner of a 300G, with the same basic brake setup as your
300C, let me offer a few comments. I have done my brake system twice in
the time I've owned the car, and have learned a few things. First off,
arcing the shoe to the drum is very important. your comments about
"arcing went out with asbestos lining" is simply not the case. I don't
know where you live, but there is a business about 30 minutes from where I
live called Friction Materials (in Oakland CA) that I take my drums and
shoes to. They mike the drum, and arc the shoe to match it. Yes, this
was a more hazardous process back when linings were asbestos, but I think
its been 15 to 20 years since asbestos has been eliminated from brake
shoes. This company will also reline worn shoes, clutches etc. Check
your yellow pages for a specialist in "friction materials".
When you reassemble, lube the backing plate where the shoe rides with a
high temp lube or anti-seize compound. Don't overdo it. Follow the
adjustment procedure in the service manual. Fronts and rears are
different cam turns for the '61, I don't know about the '57. Adjust the
cams until the shoe touches the drum and stop. You should be able to
rotate the wheel, but not free spin more than about a half to quarter
turn. I don't allow the drum to free spin, as that creates too much pedal
movement, besides the shoes will bed in after a few hundred miles and you
will need to readjust once that happens.
The more meat on your drums the better. I was able to find front drums
that were only .020" over, .060" is max. My brakes work fine, don't pull
or chatter, and are fine for the way I drive the car, I have no desire to
convert to disc brakes, but others have if you want to go that route.
Hope this helps,
Bob J
300G Convert
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 12:19:43 EDT
From: mwl1967@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Pistons
Looks like you got some deal... I just contacted them and was told
thats the price for just one.
Mike
In a message dated 9/16/03 6:20:10 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
gbarker@xxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
> If there are any members that are thinking about rebuilding there 413
> engines. I just bought a new set of Federal- Mogul Pistons for $ 61.12
> for all eight. They only have .030" oversize. and 9.7 to 1 compression
> ratio Thats about a $ 250.00 savings over most suppliers. I just
> received mine today. I bought them through www.rockauto.com
> . They also carry other 300 parts of all years.
>
> Gary Barker
>
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 15:36:17 -0400
From: "Tom Cox" <tdcox@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Synthetic Oil Study-FYI
Someone just pointed me to this synthetic oil study.
Some interesting reading. No affiliation, etc.
http://neptune.spacebears.com/cars/stories/oil-life.html
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 19:48:31 -0400
From: Tony Rinaldi <awrdoc@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: High Speed Starters For Chrysler 300s '55-'65
Hi to All,
Below is the final information on high speed starters from Roadrunner
Starters that has been finalized by Owen Grigg with Tim Wood.
We still need help with a sample of a OE59-¹61 starter or stamped
identifying
numbers. Can anyone help? Dead or dying starter lying around. Possibly,
send
it to Tim for rebuild and for use as a means for him to supply high speed
starters.
Please reply all!
Tony
>
> From: "Owen & Jo Grigg" <ram300@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 09:56:22 +1200
> To: "Tony Rinaldi" <awrdoc@xxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: "Road Runner Starters" <tim.wood@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: High Speed Starters For Chrysler 300s '55-'65
>
> Tim has said that since the starters are going to be sent half way
around the
> world a sample starter from a '59-'61 would be helpful to make 110% SURE
that
> these are correct in every way. He has an original '57-'58 starter
supplied by
> me so those years are covered.
>
> I did email the list for the numbers actually stamped on the '59-'61
starter
> to help me identify one from a pile of starters I have here, I think I
have a
> '61 unit in there somewhere. I had no response from the list.
>
> As of today I have emailed Dave Agnew a fellow NZer to see if he will
send the
> starter from his 300F to Tim.
>
> Owen
HI TONY,
I DID POST A REPLY FROM ROADUNNER STARTERS TO THE 300 LIST, AT THAT STAGE
IT
WAS UNCLEAR WHAT WILL BE AVAILALE AND THE EMAIL MAY OF BEEN HARD TO
FOLLOW.
I CALLED TIM THIS MORNING TO CONFIRM THE FOLLOWING.....
1/ THE HIGH TORQUE/SPEED STARTERS ARE AVAILABLE FOR THE '57 THRU '65
CHRYSLER 300's, FOR THE '55 & EARLY '56 YOU WILL NEED TO ENQUIRE WITH THE
NUMBERS OFF YOUR STARTER. HE ALREADY HAS SEVERAL OF THE '57-'58 UNITS
BUILT.
2/ THE STARTER SPECIFICATIONS ARE..
4.4-1 GEAR REDUCTION
WEIGHS UNDER 9LBS
525 FT/LBS TORQUE
COMPACT, DURABLE & HEAT RESISTANT
12 MONTH WARRANTY
3/ THE COST ON ALL THE STARTERS IS $188 US + SHIP WHICH IS $56 FOR 4-10
DAY
OR $48 FOR 11-25 DAY DELIVERY.
4/ IF ANYONE COULD SUPPLY ME WITH THE #'s FROM THE TAG FOR THE '59-'61
STARTER I MAY HAVE ONE TO SEND DOWN AS A SAMPLE FOR TIM. HE SAID THIS WAS
NOT ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY AS HE HAS ALL THE SPEC NUMBERS BUT IT WOULD BE
HELPFUL.
I HOPE THIS COVERS EVERYTHING. I'M SURE THOSE WHO ORDER WILL BE PLEASED
WITH THE RESULTS.
PLEASE EMAIL TIM DIRECTLY WITH ORDERS. I HAVE NO FINANCIAL INTEREST IN
THIS,
JUST GLAD TO HELP OUT .
OWEN
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 20:11:37 -0400
From: "Elizabeth McCormick" <ejmc300c@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: 57 Brake Return Springs
Hi,
There seems to be some interest in new return springs
for the 57.
I got a set from Northwestern Auto Supply
616-241-5611 or www.northwesternautosupply.com
Ask for part # BXI H230 Front
BXI H231 Rear
They charged me $6.00 a spring and $7.00 Shipping
I could not find them anywhere else.
Hope this is useful.....
Joe.......
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 17:46:00 -0700
From: "Charles Heinitz" <ccheinitz@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: 300G for sale
I live in Seattle so I went to see the car for myself. It is pretty damn
nice. Crome and paint perfect. Int in good shape, little ware on drivers
seat. See it at www.parkplaceltd.com. Chuck
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 21:33:41 -0700
From: "Charles Heinitz" <ccheinitz@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: test
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 16:17:00 +1000
From: "christopher beilby" <thelastbestgenius@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: 300C Brakes- rear
Whilst everyone is talking 300C brakes - I noticed on my rears (on only I
recently noticed), both rear shoes had linings of identical length/size.
Is this wrong - normally on brakes that are operated by a single
cylinder/piston, the leading/front shoe has a shorter lining ?!
Are 300C rear brakes an exception to this, or has somebody stuffed up -
they
are the linings that were on the car when I brought it 22 years ago, have
a
(visible) high metallic composition which I doubt is original
specification?
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 07:10:35 -0700
From: "Deborah B" <dwbuechler@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Rocker Asm.300D
Hi
Anyone have a set of adjustable rockerarms
to sell ? Need for 392 , not sure if all Hemis
are the same.
Thanks Bill
300D in Salem NJ.
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