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There are 7 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Circle K medallions
From: Rinda Van Lennep <ednavan9@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
2. '57-59 Package Shelf Option Positions
From: "Wayne Graefen" <wgraefen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
3. Re: '57-59 Package Shelf Option Positions
From: "Park Waldrop" <pwald@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
4. 57-59 Package Shelf Option Positions
From: "Les Fairbanks" <lessue@xxxxxxxxxxx>
5. '57 300C's with rear blower
From: "christopher beilby" <thelastbestgenius@xxxxxxxxxxx>
6. Re: '57-59 Package Shelf Option Positions
From: "Tim Tomlinson" <tomlin@xxxxxxxxx>
7. 1964 Water neck
From: "shu5318" <BruceSchubert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2003 12:14:14 -0700
From: Rinda Van Lennep <ednavan9@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Circle K medallions
Does any one have an extra circle K medallion that is in "good " shape
that they want to sell?
Thanks
Van Lennep
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 15:28:41 -0500
From: "Wayne Graefen" <wgraefen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: '57-59 Package Shelf Option Positions
The ONLY way I personally have seen a '57 defogger option installed,
whether done at factory, at dealership or backyard was with the air intake
grille (duplicate of radio speaker grille mounted on the passenger side of
the package shelf with the blower motor immediately beneath it. When a
rear speaker was ordered with the defogger, the speaker went in the
driver's side of the shelf. The defogger outlet was the long rectangle in
the center of the package shelf near the glass
If a rear radio speaker was ordered alone, it went into the center of the
package shelf both left to right and centered (approx) between seat and
backglass.
I would not think that this was changed engineering or cost wise in later
years. First it would be most efficient for the intake to be away from
the outlet and the wire from the dash switch need only go to the side of
the shelf, not the extra 2' to the center. Secondly the factory install
kit or the aftermarket install kit had a fixed length of hose.
Does anyone's car differ for '57? Was this done differently in '58 or
'59? Lets here from you if so. If you are responding to this inquiry,
please state whether defogger and / or rear speaker are noted on your
build code interpretation.
Thanks,
Wayne
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 23:14:36 EDT
From: mjraguse@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Rear Defogger Wanted
Wayne,,,I think it is time to take another owner survey. My 58 D isn't
home
so I can't check it tonight but I recall the defogger inlet and motor
mounted
in the center with the appropriate grille and the radio speaker mounted
outboard(left side). I believe I checked another D and it was different
with the
speaker on one side and the defogger on the other for symmetry. I know
that my
installation wasn't switched since the telltales of the lock washer
scratching
the underside of the shelf panel provides evidence. I have a feeling that
installation will vary depending on dealer install or not. Mine was a
factory
option. Responses should indicate factory or dealer installation and
standing
behind the car is the radio speaker in the center or is the defogger motor
and
grille.
Marv
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 17:39:53 -0400
From: "Park Waldrop" <pwald@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: '57-59 Package Shelf Option Positions
Wayne,
My C coupe has the speaker on the left and ''fake'' grille for the
defogger
on the right.
On a related matter, a question has been raised about whether the '57-'59
defogger had a two-speed or a single-speed blower. I find no definitive
answer in either the '57 Service Manual or the owner manual. The former
seems to show a wiring diagram for everything except the defogger,
probably
omitting that one as it was so simple. And the descriptions in both
manuals
lack any reference to two blower speeds. This, plus the simple on-off
switch, of original vintage appearance, in my car lead me to conclude for
the moment that the blower was single speed.
Do you have any wiring diagrams that show the defogger system, and thus
reveal whether there were two wires running from the switch back to the
unit, vs. just one? Or any discussions of the controls that say
definitively whether there was one blower speed or two?
Thanks and regards,
Park Waldrop
Atlanta
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 20:51:25 -0400
From: "Les Fairbanks" <lessue@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: 57-59 Package Shelf Option Positions
Wayne: The build sheet for my D says it had the rear speaker and the rear
defogger options. The speaker is on the drivers side & the intake with the
fan directly below it is on the passengers side. Les
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 11:23:48 +1000
From: "christopher beilby" <thelastbestgenius@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: '57 300C's with rear blower
One of my 300Cs had/has factory rear blower, window defogger.
But it was in a carboard box in the trunk. (2 basic parts - blower, slim
outlet and ducting hose)
The car is not where I keep my others here, so I will check it when I am
next there. However I do seem to remember a pull on type, one position,
switch/knob, on the underside of the dash. Is this what others seem to
have
for factory installation? I have never checked to see what wiring ran to
back of car, parcel shelf, but will do so when there.
re rear speaker - without rear window defogger - 1.) is it unusual to have
two rear speakers, one each side. and 2.) what is the correct type of
grille
or cover over these - (a) should it nearly exactly match the oval cutout
in
metal parcel shelf (b) is this speaker mesh suround plated/painted, and
smooth, or with scallops, other varition?
ps my 300C driver is playing up fuel pump wise again - talk about car
dramas
!! - like my 58 Caddy has noisy rear whell brg - first attempts with slide
hammer cannot free bearing from housing - never removed in my 24 years,
seized !! 57 T/Bird diff pinion seal was leaking, removed it onl;y to
find
Ford 9 " diff in '57 has special seal - unobtanium in Australia off shelf
presently. V12 Lambo overnight started putting water in oil - the water
pump bolts into crankcase front, if seal goes - water into sump !!! Water
pump off, but have to send it interstate!! And now more 300 fuel pump
dramas. Sundaty a/noon, so tried to mow the lawn, mower lost spark. Went
to go down road on my push bike - front tyre had gone flat. A relaxing
drink is looking very attractive !?
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 20:59:30 -0500
From: "Tim Tomlinson" <tomlin@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: '57-59 Package Shelf Option Positions
Wayne, and club members
1. I have a 64 Chry. 300-K with the rear window defog as a factory
option.
It is on the build sheet. Sounds as if it were installed similar to what
I've been seeing discussed on the '58, et al.
2. The spare tire requires the blower assembly to be offset from center
to
the passenger (curb) side. Inlet is the curbside speaker grill, outlet is
a
metal oval frame centered in the package shelf and slightly ahead of the
back edge. My other 300-K is not so equipped. The metal is still cut the
same as the other, but the package shelf (formed pressboard) does NOT have
the defogger cutout. Mine both have the rear seat speaker on the road
side
grill.
3. Don't know if this helps due to year difference, but like I said, it
sounds as if the same system was used.
Tim
----- Original Message -----
From: Wayne Graefen <wgraefen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Intl 300 <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Marv Raguse <MJRaguse@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 3:28 PM
Subject: [Chrysler300] '57-59 Package Shelf Option Positions
> The ONLY way I personally have seen a '57 defogger option installed,
whether done at factory, at dealership or backyard was with the air intake
grille (duplicate of radio speaker grille mounted on the passenger side of
the package shelf with the blower motor immediately beneath it. When a
rear
speaker was ordered with the defogger, the speaker went in the driver's
side
of the shelf. The defogger outlet was the long rectangle in the center of
the package shelf near the glass
>
> If a rear radio speaker was ordered alone, it went into the center of
the
package shelf both left to right and centered (approx) between seat and
backglass.
>
> I would not think that this was changed engineering or cost wise in
later
years. First it would be most efficient for the intake to be away from
the
outlet and the wire from the dash switch need only go to the side of the
shelf, not the extra 2' to the center. Secondly the factory install kit
or
the aftermarket install kit had a fixed length of hose.
>
> Does anyone's car differ for '57? Was this done differently in '58 or
'59? Lets here from you if so. If you are responding to this inquiry,
please state whether defogger and / or rear speaker are noted on your
build
code interpretation.
>
> Thanks,
> Wayne
>
>
>
> Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 23:14:36 EDT
> From: mjraguse@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Rear Defogger Wanted
>
> Wayne,,,I think it is time to take another owner survey. My 58 D isn't
home
> so I can't check it tonight but I recall the defogger inlet and motor
mounted
> in the center with the appropriate grille and the radio speaker mounted
> outboard(left side). I believe I checked another D and it was different
with the
> speaker on one side and the defogger on the other for symmetry. I know
that my
> installation wasn't switched since the telltales of the lock washer
scratching
> the underside of the shelf panel provides evidence. I have a feeling
that
> installation will vary depending on dealer install or not. Mine was a
factory
> option. Responses should indicate factory or dealer installation and
standing
> behind the car is the radio speaker in the center or is the defogger
motor
and
> grille.
> Marv
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 03:33:20 -0000
From: "shu5318" <BruceSchubert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: 1964 Water neck
I didn't give enough information on the car it is for an air
conditioned car with 413. So it does havethe angle. If anyone knows a
source let me know.
Thanks
Bruce
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