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There are 20 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Grounds and AC ripple
From: "Warren R Anderson" <wranderson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
2. Re: Steeringcolumn exchange - '67 tilt -> '65
From: Robert Merritt <okbobwynmer@xxxxxxxxx>
3. Re: Plug Wires
From: cotejohnr@xxxxxxx
4. Re: Steeringcolumn exchange - '67 tilt -> '65
From: "Ryan Hill" <ryan_hillc300@xxxxxxxxxxx>
5. California Members
From: Chuck McGill <chuxter@xxxxxxxxxx>
6. Transmission ID number
From: Anton Kåre Drønen <ak.dronen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
7. Re: Digest Number 567
From: "Park Waldrop" <pwald@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
8. Re: steering center link
From: "Kelly Pierce" <jkrestor300@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
9. Re: Waldron's Exhaust
From: "Charlie Valentine" <cross.ram@xxxxxxxxxxx>
10. Re: top cleaning
From: jp300hurst@xxxxxxx
11. RE: top cleaning
From: Mark Souders <souders@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
12. 300K Shift Cable
From: Doug Warrener <dwarrener@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
13. coolant leak
From: "Richard W. Tibben" <tibbmopar@xxxxxxxxxx>
14. Re: top cleaning
From: "Ryan Hill" <ryan_hillc300@xxxxxxxxxxx>
15. Re: 300K Shift Cable
From: RONVE@xxxxxxx
16. Re: coolant leak
From: "Bob Jasinski" <rpjasin@xxxxxxxxxxx>
17. Patriots
From: News4ge@xxxxxxx
18. Re: top cleaning
From: moparpjf@xxxxxxx
19. RE: top cleaning
From: Mark Souders <souders@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
20. Re: coolant leak
From: Robert Merritt <okbobwynmer@xxxxxxxxx>
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 13:27:47 -0700
From: "Warren R Anderson" <wranderson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Grounds and AC ripple
>But now I have a noise that changes pitch with the increase in engine
speed.
>This problem started when I installed the 89 Fifth Avenue alternator.
>This noise cannot be turned down with the volume control only by turning
the
>radio completely off.
The power side of the circuit can be dealt with as noted with feed through
noise filters and strap on capacitors. The ground side I would suggest
should also be checked carefully. This would be to check the battery
negative path from the batt (-) to the radio and the antenna mounting and
fender and hood.
Cars with computer controls require a clean voltage supply. Checking is done
with an oscilloscope or a volt meter set on a low millivolt AC scale. AC
ripple will always show up as a voltage (alternator is a rectified three
phase AC electrical machine) measured as maybe 20 MV and less is better. I
do not have a good alternator older Chrysler to check right now but I would
think 100MV AC + would be a good indication that an output diode is bad in
the alternator. A bad diode will also keep the output down.
Side note, most rebuilders will reuse old diodes if they pass testing and I
do not believe this practice works real well. I used to build alternators in
the shop because of this practice and way too many come backs. Late '80's up
applications today we install rebuilt units with the highest number of new
parts and this does work fairly well.
Warren Anderson
Sedona,AZ
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 12:35:16 -0800 (PST)
From: Robert Merritt <okbobwynmer@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Steeringcolumn exchange - '67 tilt -> '65
Herman,
before you try to change the units, check the wiring harness. I seem to remember that the tilt column requires a different wireing harness but have never changed one out myself so don't know what the difference was. A friend was trying to replace damaged wires up thru the column and on the same year model Dodge pickup, the wiring harness was different between his with tilt and one I was parting out without tilt. Look the plug-in to the column over to see if they are the same. If they are, maybe the whole column will interchange with the wiring, but he was trying to change wiring only and couldn't make it work and ended up swapping out the entire column with wires and doing away with the tilt.
Okie Bob
Herman <moparhemi440@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:Hello all,
Before I get my hands dirty and have 2 inoperable cars, I would like to
know someone ever exchanged the steeringcolumn between a '67 Chrysler
(Newport) and a '65 300.
The '67 Newports column is a Tilt&Scope-version and I would like to
have that one in my '65 300 convertible.
Other than the looks on the dash, are there other real problems I might
encounter during this swap?
I know the shift linkage is different, but I'm hoping I could exchange
thos aswell...
Any info is appreciated.
Thanks,
Herman Meiners
The Netherlands
http://mopar.2ya.com
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 16:38:14 EST
From: cotejohnr@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Plug Wires
Matt,
NAPA has a set that will I believe work for you and it has the straight red
boots. I used one set on my '61 Newport wagon 361 engine 3 years ago.
NAPA # 700170 @ $48 list and $36.50 Net Got rotor and cap from them as
well but I don't know if 413's are the same. #'s are AL125 Rotor ($4) and
AL129 for Cap ($13).
Good luck,
John Cote
CT.
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 14:06:41 -0800
From: "Ryan Hill" <ryan_hillc300@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Steeringcolumn exchange - '67 tilt -> '65
FYI - One difference I know of between tilt and non tilt is the location of
the signal switch. The tilt switch is located at the bottom of the column
but when I swapped the tilt column between my two 65's the harness plugged
right in with no alterations.
Ryan
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 15:06:59 -0800
From: Chuck McGill <chuxter@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: California Members
Have you heard of Senate bill ?SB 708?
(One of our members brought it up several weeks ago.)
? It cancels the smog test exemptions of SB 42, which exempted 1973 and older
cars from the requirement for smog testing. The new bill will require a smog
test every two years until these cars are 45 years old.
? The bill is scheduled for a vote around the 25th of this month and if
passed, will go into effect Jan, 1 2005. Take a look at
http://www.smogrfg.com? for more information.
? If you would spend hours and days and miles to get a PART for your car,
consider 10 or 15 minutes to contact your senator and save your WHOLE car.
Chuck
San Jose, Ca.
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 00:06:11 +0100
From: Anton Kåre Drønen <ak.dronen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Transmission ID number
Hello out there.
Seem`s to have deleted the E-mail where the 300 transmittion ID numbers were
listed. Could anyone please send it to me.
Thanks
Anton Dronen
Norway
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 21:06:33 -0500
From: "Park Waldrop" <pwald@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Digest Number 567
Robert,
Put a filter right in the feed wire for the radio. Try to get a filter that
has a ground lead on it in addition to the ''in'' and ''out'' leads. It'll
be more effective.
Park Waldrop
C cpe - Atlanta
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 20:19:46 -0700
From: "Kelly Pierce" <jkrestor300@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: steering center link
Pat-
I have five 64 Chryslers, 3 K's, one wagon and one sport 300. I have
had to replace these on three of them and I found one good used one off a 63
New Yorker that was wrecked 20 years ago with fairly low mileage. The other
two I got off ebay and paid about $100.00 for each one. I have seen some on
ebay go for as high as $200.00+, you just have to watch for them and bid
accordingly. I do not know if anyone rebuilds these or not, and have
checked every old parts store in Eastern Montana to see if they possibly had
one "left on the shelf" for years, but no luck yet. Joe Pierce.-----
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To: <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 10:02 PM
Subject: [Chrysler300] steering center link
> I have a 1964 Chrysler 300K. When I went to get the front end aligned I
was
> told that I needed a center link for the steering. This part is the rod
> dead center in the steering system and is two or three feet long. I would
> like to know if anyone has this part available or knows of a source and
> approximate cost for this item. I would appreciate any input that anyone
> might have regarding this part.
>
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 22:49:22 -0800
From: "Charlie Valentine" <cross.ram@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Waldron's Exhaust
Same thing here. I ordered mine from Waldron's. I ordered the stainless dual
exhaust for my 62 300 Sport Convert. The stainless was $100.00 more than the
aluminized. I also ordered the stainless clamps (8 @ $10.00 each). The
mufflers are not stainless.
I installed it with no problem but it just needs a little tweaking. The left
exhaust pipe is too close to the frame. Other than that it sounds pretty
nice.
Charlie Valentine
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Souders" <souders@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Charlie Valentine'" <cross.ram@xxxxxxxxxxx>; "Intl 300"
<Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 4:33 AM
Subject: RE: [Chrysler300]Waldron's Exhaust
> Good morning group,
> I ordered a complete exhaust system from Waldron's Antique Car Exhaust
> Parts. I placed the order on 3/5 and received it on 3/12. I installed it
> last weekend and it fit perfectly. They told me when I placed the order
> that they have all the old Chrysler specs. Their price was very
reasonable,
> too. I would recommend this company.
>
> Mark Souders
> 300H
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Charlie Valentine [SMTP:cross.ram@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 8:19 PM
> > To: Intl 300; mjraguse@xxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] King and Queen Muffler and Exhaust Systems
> >
> > I just emailed them earlier this week and the following is their
response.
> >
> > "Sorry, We are not bending any exhaust pipes any longer due to an
injury.
> > Our business for bending is on hold.
> > Thanks,
> > Dave
> > Here is their email address: kqmufflers@xxxxxxxxxxx and phone:
> > 215-766-8699.
> > They are located in Plumsteadville, PA. They may still sell mufflers but
I
> > really do not know.
> >
> > I have never dealt with them before but I was looking for a complete
> > exhaust
> > system. I called Waldrons Exhaust at 1-800-503-9428 and ordered a
complete
> > system. I think it will be here next week. I have never dealt with him
> > either. I saw both King and Queen and Waldrons at Carlisle and Hershey.
> >
> > Happy 300ing
> > Charlie Valentine
> > 300G, 62 300 sport Convertible
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
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> > To: "Intl 300" <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 2:07 PM
> > Subject: [Chrysler300] King and Queen Muffler and Exhaust Systems
> >
> >
> > > A year or so I bought some exhaust components from a business in
> > Pennsylvania
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they
> > are
> > > located? Can't find them.
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 09:11:11 EST
From: jp300hurst@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: top cleaning
Hello, I see there is much response to this topic. What are these quality
conditioners? What are the brands that some of you use?
Thanks in advance, john
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 09:31:34 -0500
From: Mark Souders <souders@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: top cleaning
John,
I used to work at a Jeep dealer, (between real jobs) and we offered "First
Place Finish" It was just a way to get more money from the car-buying
public, for a wax job. The dealer marked up the car by $650. First place
finish offered a finish rejuvenator, and a vinyl and leather conditioner.
The Vinyl and leather conditioner worked great on my seats, dash board, and
vinyl tops. I don't know what the stuff was made of, but it really worked
well. I don't know if that stuff is available retail, but when you bought a
car with this First Place Finish, you also got a postcard to order another
set of bottles. The problem is they sent the refills to the dealership and
not to you directly. My last bottle is almost empty, so I'll soon need to
find something else to use.
Mark
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JP300HURST@xxxxxxx [SMTP:JP300HURST@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 9:11 AM
> To: ryan_hillc300@xxxxxxxxxxx; SOUDERS@xxxxxxxxxxxxx;
> tubman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] top cleaning
>
> Hello, I see there is much response to this topic. What are these quality
> conditioners? What are the brands that some of you use?
>
> Thanks in advance, john
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 07:52:01 -0800
From: Doug Warrener <dwarrener@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: 300K Shift Cable
Does anyone know of a source for 300K shift cables?
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 08:49:26 -0800
From: "Richard W. Tibben" <tibbmopar@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: coolant leak
Greetings,
I have a small coolant leak in my 300G that I can't quite figure. I
find the coolant on the firewall. It seems like it might be coming from
the plug in the firewall that is located to the right and just below the
heater box (looking from the front of the car). Before I take it to the
local radiator shop I would like to see if anyone can determine where it is
coming from. Thanks!
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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 09:20:15 -0800
From: "Ryan Hill" <ryan_hillc300@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: top cleaning
I've used many different products over the years to clean and protect tops
and interiors. For my interior leather and vinyl I like to use saddle soap,
'Leather Ranch' leather conditioner, or the 'Maguires' brand conditioner.
I've liked the results on my tops with saddle soap as well but I tend to use
a 'Turtle Wax' product specificly designed for vinyl hardtops and converts.
(Turtle Wax also has a cleaner for vinyl tops) I believe 'Mothers' and
'Maguires' both have offerings for these areas. You pay a little more but
it's usually money well spent.
For your leather, the Leather Ranch conditioner works wonders. I've
resurected hard, dried, and sun beaten leather an dash pads to be soft and
supple with the stuff. You just have to continue applications regularely
until the moisture is restored.
Hope this helps. Ryan
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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 12:41:08 EST
From: RONVE@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: 300K Shift Cable
In a message dated 3/19/2003 10:26:56 AM Central Standard Time,
dwarrener@xxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
>
Doug,
Suggest you give these folks a call!
Ron ...
??????????Contact <A HREF="" href="mailto:SC68Cuda@xxxxxxx">mailto:SC68Cuda@xxxxxxx">Steve</A> at Imperial Services and tell him you read about the
cables here. Or call: Steve's phone is 989.652.6309, leave a message!
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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 09:57:16 -0800
From: "Bob Jasinski" <rpjasin@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: coolant leak
Rich,
Sounds like it might be the heater core.
Bob J
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard W. Tibben
To: chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 8:49 AM
Subject: [Chrysler300] coolant leak
Greetings,
I have a small coolant leak in my 300G that I can't quite figure. I
find the coolant on the firewall. It seems like it might be coming from
the plug in the firewall that is located to the right and just below the
heater box (looking from the front of the car). Before I take it to the
local radiator shop I would like to see if anyone can determine where it is
coming from. Thanks!
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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 12:57:49 EST
From: News4ge@xxxxxxx
Subject: Patriots
Yesterday, 250 of our National Guard left Daytona Beach for active duty.
Flag waving people lined Speedway Blvd. Cops blocked all the major
intersections. As the 5 busloads of soldiers passed, the cops stood at
attention and saluted them. Hundreds of cars and trucks with flags waving
followed them to the airport. Makes you PROUD to be an American!
George
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Message: 18
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 13:32:24 EST
From: moparpjf@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: top cleaning
In a message dated 03/19/2003 9:32:33 AM Eastern Standard Time,
souders@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
>
> John,
> I used to work at a Jeep dealer, (between real jobs) and we offered "First
> Place Finish" It was just a way to get more money from the car-buying
> public, for a wax job. The dealer marked up the car by $650. First place
> finish offered a finish rejuvenator, and a vinyl and leather conditioner.
> The Vinyl and leather conditioner worked great on my seats, dash board, and
> vinyl tops. I don't know what the stuff was made of, but it really worked
> well. I don't know if that stuff is available retail, but when you bought
> a
> car with this First Place Finish, you also got a postcard to order another
> set of bottles. The problem is they sent the refills to the dealership and
> not to you directly. My last bottle is almost empty, so I'll soon need to
> find something else to use.
>
> Mark
>
Hey Mark - surprise!!!!!!!
www.firstplacefinish.com/orderform.html
You can get your cleaner directly from them for $9.95/bottle. Don't thank me
- thank Google.com
Pete Fitch
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Message: 19
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 13:35:38 -0500
From: Mark Souders <souders@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: top cleaning
Ya !!! That's the stuff !!!
Thanks
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Moparpjf@xxxxxxx [SMTP:Moparpjf@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 1:32 PM
> To: souders@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; JP300HURST@xxxxxxx;
> ryan_hillc300@xxxxxxxxxxx; tubman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] top cleaning
>
> In a message dated 03/19/2003 9:32:33 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> souders@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
>
>
>
>
>
> John,
> I used to work at a Jeep dealer, (between real jobs) and we offered
> "First
> Place Finish" It was just a way to get more money from the
> car-buying
> public, for a wax job. The dealer marked up the car by $650. First
> place
> finish offered a finish rejuvenator, and a vinyl and leather
> conditioner.
> The Vinyl and leather conditioner worked great on my seats, dash
> board, and
> vinyl tops. I don't know what the stuff was made of, but it really
> worked
> well. I don't know if that stuff is available retail, but when you
> bought a
> car with this First Place Finish, you also got a postcard to order
> another
> set of bottles. The problem is they sent the refills to the
> dealership and
> not to you directly. My last bottle is almost empty, so I'll soon
> need to
> find something else to use.
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> Hey Mark - surprise!!!!!!!
>
> www.firstplacefinish.com/orderform.html
>
> You can get your cleaner directly from them for $9.95/bottle. Don't thank
> me - thank Google.com
>
> Pete Fitch
>
>
>
>
>
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Message: 20
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 10:50:17 -0800 (PST)
From: Robert Merritt <okbobwynmer@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: coolant leak
Rich, How much space between the heater hoses and clamps to the firewall? Most heater tubes thru the firewall have a small hole on the bottom side about an inch from the end of the metal tube. That lets you start the noses on and bleed the air out of the heater core and then when the air is expelled and fluid runs from the hole the hoses should be pushed almost to the firewall and the clamp close enough to the firewall to seal off the bleed hole when tightened. If your hose and/or clamp isn't close to the firewall, try loosening the clamp and moving hose and clamp closer and see if this solves the problem. It only takes a few minutes and sure beats pulling the heater core out and after checking and not finding any leaks, THEN noticing the bleed holes.
Okie Bob
"Richard W. Tibben" <tibbmopar@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Greetings,
I have a small coolant leak in my 300G that I can't quite figure. I
find the coolant on the firewall. It seems like it might be coming from
the plug in the firewall that is located to the right and just below the
heater box (looking from the front of the car). Before I take it to the
local radiator shop I would like to see if anyone can determine where it is
coming from. Thanks!
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