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There are 12 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Power Steering pump..
From: "Dean Mullinax" <55des4me@xxxxxxxx>
2. 55-56 parts wanted
From: John Hertog <crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
3. 300M Tires
From: Ken Krull <kdkblk@xxxxxxxx>
4. Re: Power Steering pump..
From: "Laurence G. Johnson" <laurence_g_johnson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
5. Re: 300M Tires
From: mwl1967@xxxxxxx
6. Windshield Wiper
From: "Jennifer Allyn" <gearhead.girl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
7. Re: Windshield Wiper
From: Mike <moparmike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
8. Chrysler 300M Goodyear Tires
From: "Jim Pristelski" <ajp002@xxxxxxx>
9. wiper problems
From: "John Peabody" <Jpeabo@xxxxxxx>
10. side wing n 300C
From: "David Zakarian" <arshog@xxxxxxxx>
11. Windshield Wiper diagnosis
From: John Hertog <crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
12. Re: 300M Tires
From: G Barker <gbarker@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 16:37:20 -0500
From: "Dean Mullinax" <55des4me@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Power Steering pump..
Hello to all,
It seems that some time back I read on the listserver that someone was rebuilding power steering pumps. Does anyone know who it was or have any recommendations?? I am thinking about doing the pump on my '58 D.
Dean Mullinax
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 17:53:11 -0500
From: John Hertog <crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: 55-56 parts wanted
Hi, group
I need the following parts. Preferably from a 56 Chrysler as that would be
12 volts...
1/ Blower motor, mounting base and squirrel cage ( in other words, the whole
assembly that screws into the box on firewall) . The entire assembly in this
car is missing.
2/ Defroster blower motor for inside car, under dash.
If it makes any difference, this is an a/c car.. it's a 55 but has been
converted to 12 volts. Therefore probably 56 components would be better
suited.
Please e-mail me back if you can help. - need these ASAP if not sooner !
John
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 23:03:27 -0500
From: Ken Krull <kdkblk@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: 300M Tires
This summer I bought a 99 300M with less than 18,000 miles. Because of
a shake in the steering wheel they replaced one tire then, because of a
bad belt. Just had tires rotated and the shake is back. Haven't called
the dealer yet. Have others had similar problems? Makes me wonder if
Goodyear hired Firrestone's Quality control department. The tires are
Eagle LS 225/55R17.
Ken Krull
New Paris, In.
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 23:18:44 -0500
From: "Laurence G. Johnson" <laurence_g_johnson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Power Steering pump..
Try:
Steer & Gear
1000 Barnett Road
Columbus, OH 43227
(614) 231-4064
They specialize in remanufacturing early Chrysler products power steering
pumps and steering boxes. Larry Johnson
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>Hello to all,
>
>It seems that some time back I read on the listserver that someone was
>rebuilding power steering pumps. Does anyone know who it was or have any
>recommendations?? I am thinking about doing the pump on my '58 D.
>
>Dean Mullinax
>
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 00:38:01 EST
From: mwl1967@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: 300M Tires
Ken
Well you're note to the listserver really got me worked up this evening.
You see I just settled a lawsuit against a local chrysler dealer and
damilerchrysler. My car has just finished off its second set of tires in 30
thousand miles. The first set had vibrations which couldnt be cured and the
entire set was replaced under warranty at around 16k miles. The second set
had no vibrations but the tech misaligned the car and that set was all
feathered and chopped up three thousand miles later. Despite the fact that
the dealer said nothing was wrong with the alignment specs three other tire
dealers gave me printouts showing the toe and camber was out of spec. I
called the customer inassistance center who got involved and asked that I go
to another dealership because they wont offer assistance based on the
evidence of non mopar techs so I went to another dealership where they
charged me to look at the car.. Remember now that the car is STILL under
factory warranty!
At any rate that dealer determined that the alignment was out of spec
just like all the other shops told me. Called back the rep at the customer
assistance center with the results and he asked me what I would like them to
do... I said replace the tires and refund the money I spent at the second
chrysler dealer to correct the aligment which the first dealer screwed up.
He told me he'd forward the request to the zone manager and I'd have a call
from the zone office within two weeks. 3 weeks go by, no call, I called back
and found out that they denied ANY assistance at all the day after the
request was put through. They wouldnt provide the name of the local zone
manager and wouldnt escalate my call beyond the service rep who then only
said that he had full authority and couldnt/wouldnt help me any further...
this after HE sent me to HIS dealer where I paid to have the car looked at at
my expense because I'm sure they were betting the second dealer would simply
confirm that there was nothing wrong with the car. He recommended the binding
arbitration as mentioned in the warranty manual for the car.
Anyway, longer story short... I filed a civil suit and three days before
the pre-trial conference they came up with a bunch of cash and a set of
tires. I requested and got Michelin MXV4 plus's.
Funny ... if you've looked at any 2000 and newer M's you'll notice they
dont come equipped with the GoodYears ... HMMmmm wonder why ? because
Chrysler engineers spec'd out the tires incorrectly to GoodYear. You've got
what's technically referred to as a "tire disturbance". Call GoodYear
customer service, tell em what car youve got and that youve been told youve
got a tire disturbance and theres a program in place to get chrysler to
replace the tires under warranty. No DaimlerChrysler dealer will admit this
to you! The folks at Goodyear will give you a special phone number and code
and tell you to go to a chrysler dealer where you'll go in and they'll look
at you like you're from Mars or worse yet Stuggart. Then they'll call the
number, give the code and have four tires on the way for you. Unfortunately
they'll still be Goodyears but will be "OE" spec tires. This means that
even though they'll look like the goodyear Eagle LS's on the car and be the
same size they are actually different than the same tires you could buy at a
local GoodYear store. This should cure your vibration.
Dont let them give you any BS about your car being past 12k miles or the
tires too worn out to get replaced. The district manager and the reps in
corporate were so arrogant and full of S*@# that I came -->THIS<-- close to
buying an Acura to replace the M. Would have been unfortunate as I do like
the car , always have, but those creepy nazi bastards who now reside in
Auburn Hills pushed me to the edge. Although I signed a release and it did
state I agree not to "talk" about the nature of the settlement or any issues
there in I dont actually see anything in there about my agreeing not to
"write" about anything. Therefore... if you cant resolve it to your
satisfaction let me know and I'll send you the names and direct phone numbers
for the nimrods in corporate who I dealt with. You can give 'em my name and
send my regards.
Good luck
Mike Laiserin
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 22:27:14 -0800
From: "Jennifer Allyn" <gearhead.girl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Windshield Wiper
We have 2 '62's, a 300 Sport & a NY wagon. They both do the same thing in
reference to the windshield wipers. When I turn them on, in either of the 2
speeds, they work great. When I go to turn them off, they keep going & I
have to position the knob in between the off position & the slower speed
position to get them to stop.
How do I fix this? Do I need to pull the motor out its impossible location
for some form of a repair?
Thanks!
Matt Allyn
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 05:16:47 -0800
From: Mike <moparmike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Windshield Wiper
Make sure all the ground connections are good first.
Mike
At 10:27 PM 11/30/01 -0800, Jennifer Allyn wrote:
>We have 2 '62's, a 300 Sport & a NY wagon. They both do the same thing in
>reference to the windshield wipers. When I turn them on, in either of the 2
>speeds, they work great. When I go to turn them off, they keep going & I
>have to position the knob in between the off position & the slower speed
>position to get them to stop.
>
>How do I fix this? Do I need to pull the motor out its impossible location
>for some form of a repair?
>
>
>Thanks!
>Matt Allyn
>
>
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 08:29:30 -0600
From: "Jim Pristelski" <ajp002@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Chrysler 300M Goodyear Tires
I responded privately to Mike Laiserin's problems with Goodyear tires on his
300M, then I realized that this may be a problem of interest to the entire
list, since I have also experienced problems with Goodyear tires on another
type of vehicle:
Hi Mike,
I wouldn't be surprised if Goodyear shares some of the blame for the
original vibrations that you experienced. My wife bought a new 1999 Chevy
Blazer with Goodyear tires; Wrangler 235 x 15. In fact, I made the dealer
switch the Uniroyals that were originally on the Blazer to the Goodyears.
One of the rears blew out the sidewall at around 20,000. The Goodyear
dealer near me replaced it free without any difficult discussions, or worse.
At around the same time, the fronts began thumping. Now at around 30,000,
they are unevenly worn to the point of serious vibations. I plan to replace
them shortly, but it won't be with Goodyears! I have been a Goodyear fan
for many years, but they just aren't what they used to be. In the future, I
plan to stay away from Goodyears, just as I have long stayed away from
Uniroyals, Firestones and BFGoodrichs. When I was a teenager, I worked at a
Chrysler/Plymouth dealership. Among other things, I changed many tires. At
that time, Goodyear was much superior to the other brands listed above. Not
any more! Best regards, Jim
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 12:00:44 -0500
From: "John Peabody" <Jpeabo@xxxxxxx>
Subject: wiper problems
Mike, Although I can't say what's wrong with her wipers, I can tell you that most wiper systems are wired 'hot'. The wiper switch provides the necessary ground to complete the circuit. The wiper motor is insulated from the firewall, usually through rubber grommets where the bolts hold the motor on. Only the 'park' or 'off' portion of the wiper sweep needs grounded to work or ungrounded to shut off. Maybe one of the insulator have worn through providing a complete circuit. Possibly water is getting into your wiper motor and grounding the 'park' position. I wouldn't be surprised to find they stop good on dry glass. Good luck, John Peabody Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 09:41:58 -0800
From: "David Zakarian" <arshog@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: side wing n 300C
Does anyone know where I can get replacement rubber boots that go on the leading edge of the side-wing as it sits on the door. This is the one that slips over the front attaching arm of the side-wing and stops the side-wing from resting directly on the door. My old ones are really in poor shape as well as being in several pieces.
Thanks,
Zak
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 13:57:24 -0500
From: John Hertog <crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Windshield Wiper diagnosis
Hi Jennie and Matt,
I must differ with the two previous suggestions sent back to you that I read
on the listserver.
The wiper motor is a reversing motor; it is identical to the power window
motors 1960 thru 1964, in that it is GROUNDED to the car body via its two
attaching studs thru the mounting bracket. There are no rubber grommets to
isolate it. Indeed, the wiper motor will not function at all if not grounded
to the (-) body of the car.
If your motor works at all, then it is grounded, and you should look
elsewhere to diagnose the lack of park and stop function. Follow the
following procedure:
1/ Disconnect the two double leads ( there's a BLUE + BROWN and a YELLOW +
RED) . Get a test light and check for following:
With wiper switch in the "OFF " position, AND LEADS DISCONNECTED FROM MOTOR,
you should have:
BLUE = energized (+) ; all three others (Brown, Yellow and Red ) not
energized.
With wiper switch to "ON" ( low speed) ( and leads still detached) you
should have:
BROWN and RED energized ; Blue and Yellow not energized.
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Therefore, if you don't get voltage at the blue terminal when you turn the
wiper switch to the off position, the wipers will keep running, and won't
reverse. If that is the case, you either have a broken switch or a bad BLUE
lead from the switch. to the motor. Or maybe the leads are switched around
on the wiper switch. See wiring diagram in service manual.
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NEXT DIAGNOSIS : connect both terminals between wiring harness and wiper
motor.
Using the test light, check for following:
BLUE WIRE: will be energized when wiper switch is in the "OFF" position.
Will de-energize for about 2 seconds when turning wipers on, and will then
re-energize as wipers are running. Will STAY energized when wipers are
turned OFF
BROWN WIRE: no power when switch is "OFF" . Will be energized when switch
is turned on, and while motor is reversing.
RED: Energized when wipers are turned on. Voltage varies with speed
selected. OFF when reversing or turned off.
YELLOW : Energizes when reversing ONLY. No power when running or when
parked.
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other problem solving: when turning switch to the "off" position, the motor
reverses but does NOT shut off. That is due to a gummed-up plastic cam
under the gear cover... remove the 4 or 5 screws that hold cover in place.
You'll see a larger white plastic cam that is activated by the motor, and
goes round and round...and a smaller plastic cam that contacts the larger
one, which is connected to the on/off switch thru the metal plate. spray
some WD-40 or similar and flick this smaller cam back and forth until it
frees itself. It is spring-loaded and should return freely to its rest
position. It is easy to free it up. Once freed up, reassemble cover and
now, when the wiper motor reverses, it will engage that cam and turn the
motor off after one revolution.
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It is not especially hard to work on this with the glovebox removed.
Good luck,
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jennifer Allyn" <gearhead.girl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Chrysler 300 Club Int'l Listserver" <chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 1:27 AM
Subject: [Chrysler300] Windshield Wiper
> We have 2 '62's, a 300 Sport & a NY wagon. They both do the same thing in
> reference to the windshield wipers. When I turn them on, in either of the
2
> speeds, they work great. When I go to turn them off, they keep going & I
> have to position the knob in between the off position & the slower speed
> position to get them to stop.
>
> How do I fix this? Do I need to pull the motor out its impossible
location
> for some form of a repair?
>
>
> Thanks!
> Matt Allyn
>
>
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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 11:48:57 -0800
From: G Barker <gbarker@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: 300M Tires
You have no idea what your new car was subjected to. It would only take one time for
someone to have run over a curb, or hit a large chuck hole to ruin some tires. When you
are done replacing the bad tires. I would Also have the alignment checked .All four
wheels.....Gary Barker
Ken Krull wrote:
> This summer I bought a 99 300M with less than 18,000 miles. Because of
> a shake in the steering wheel they replaced one tire then, because of a
> bad belt. Just had tires rotated and the shake is back. Haven't called
> the dealer yet. Have others had similar problems? Makes me wonder if
> Goodyear hired Firrestone's Quality control department. The tires are
> Eagle LS 225/55R17.
> Ken Krull
> New Paris, In.
>
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