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There are 10 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. FW: 1974 JH - hesitation when turning left...
From: john_nowosacki@xxxxxxxxxxx
2. Car Transport Available
From: "Jess" <jdmiklas@xxxxxxx>
3. Re: no more popping
From: "Laurence G. Johnson" <laurence_g_johnson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
4. no more popping - reply
From: John Hertog <crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
5. 300G shines - area (western PA) charity car cruise
From: "Myles Wallace" <myles1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
6. Re: no more popping - reply
From: RONVE@xxxxxxx
7. RE: no more popping - reply
From: john_nowosacki@xxxxxxxxxxx
8. RE: no more popping - reply
From: Mike Apfelbeck <moparmike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
9. Re: no more popping - reply
From: paulholm <paulholm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
10. Bad Dist.
From: G Barker <gbarker@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 08:11:12 -0600
From: john_nowosacki@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: FW: 1974 JH - hesitation when turning left...
Thought I would share this with the list, given what John Hertog is going
through. It seems only NASCAR vehicles are made to go left.
John
-----Original Message-----
From: JE Tipp [mailto:j.tipp@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 9:30 PM
To: jensen-cars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: 1974 JH - hesitation when turning left...
Any advice on possible source of this problem or solutions?
My '75 JH runs great. 82K original miles, twin Strom's, Pertonix
ignitor & coil, Magnecore wires, but otherwise original.
The only exception is when making a left turn (or sharp curve) and
accelerating the car hesitates as if it has run out of gas. This is
true whether starting from a stoplight or driving under any speed. The
caveat is mostly around how much I'm accelerating- if I'm not pushing
it, there's little to no hesitation. The issue does not arise when
turning right or at any other time.
Ideas?
Thanks.
Jayson Tipp
'74 JH 19974
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 12:57:36 -0400
From: "Jess" <jdmiklas@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Car Transport Available
Group:
A fellow named JACK DEAN picks up and transports vehicles anywhere in the
EASTERN half of USA. He will also transport
"NOT-RUNNING" , PARTS CARS and "HULKS" (which is the basis of MY 300
collection)
He uses an oversize single car open trailer at this time. He can get a
whole car and a large pile of parts at one time.
He can also "warehouse" your vehicle indoors. Got a great deal on a
project car if you buy it right away but you have no place to put it? He
can pick it up and store it indoors at reasonable monthly increments and
then deliver at your convenience.
He can also offer "dismantling service". Found a parts car with that
engine and transmission you need, gotta get it right away, but live in an
area where dismantling vehicles offends the neighbors? He will pick it up,
dismantle it at his warehouse and deliver to you just those PARTS you
want.
As usual with small transporters,
You must carry your own insurance on transported vehicles and
He MIGHT travel to Canada but you would have to meet him and handle
CUSTOMS hassles.
He is a good guy and he is HONEST!
Call JACK DEAN @ 412-496-1723 (Washington,Pennsylvania)
Jeff Miklas
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 13:04:21 -0400
From: "Laurence G. Johnson" <laurence_g_johnson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: no more popping
John,
Please pass along whatever Don finds in the distributor. This is one of
those perplexing issues that you just have to know about to fix. Wonder if
the problem is commom to all the old cast iron dual point units....
Glad you found it. LGJ
>From: John Hertog <crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: Chrysler 300 Club Listverver <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [Chrysler300] no more popping
>Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 17:39:55 -0400
>Hi to all and thanks to all that responded. Seems problem is solved - no
>more popping.
>
>First started by driving car immediately when cold. I thought that
perhaps
>the fact that the chokes were still closed would affect SOMETHING . It
>didn't - the car popped immediately, just as before, as soon as I got to
>the traffic circle a few hundred feet down the road.
>
>Before starting on big work, like pulling the rams off, it seemed logical
>to try the easy stuff first. The solution? Replaced the distributor
with
> >another unit. Solved the problem completely - I cannot get the carbs to
>pop >or sputter no matter if I turn left, or right, or whatever ! It was
an
>instantaneous fix. Whew !
>
>Why a distributor problem would make a car pop back thru the carbs on
left
>hand turns is totally beyond me. Visual inspection of old distributor
>reveals nothing afoul. I intend to ship the distributor to Don Verity so
he
>can set it up on his Sun distributor machine and hopefully find out what
>was wrong with it.
>
>Thanks again to all that responded . It all helped ! Maybe this can help
>diagnose Pete Fitch's 300G as well !
>
>300'ly to all
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 13:14:51 -0400
From: John Hertog <crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: no more popping - reply
Hi Larry,
Well, I guess if there is one lesson to be learned from all this mess.In
the
case of a ram car that pops back thru the carbs, the problem is not
necessarily carburetor related.
All my "gut feeling" and past experience with cars seemed to indicate that
the popping was due to improper float level in the carbs. Indeed, I did
drive this car to my carburetor repair shop, and test drove it, with the
shop owner in the car. He heard the popping and also, immediately,
concurred that this was a carb problem ! He indicated that he thought it
was a lean condition occuring on turns . We played with the carbs for
quite
awhile until we both ran out of time and got nowhere. Couldn't find
anything
wrong with the carbs anyway - took the tops off, float level was to spec !
Yes, if Don Verity finds a specific problem with the distributor, we will
share these findings with the list ! I still can't for the life of me
comprehend how left turns could affect a distributor to the point that
this
one was affected... it defies my logic... but, so be it, the problem is
solved. It was an immediate fix, the problem was constantly present before
the distributor swap and disappeared completely with another distributor
installed !
I will add this : it really helped, in my case, to have spare carbs and
distributors on hand to swap out... if I didn't have the spare carbs, I'd
probably still be chasing a carburetor issue !
John
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 13:40:11 -0400
From: "Myles Wallace" <myles1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: 300G shines - area (western PA) charity car cruise
Hey Gang ---
Attended what turned out to be a very large charity car cruise over this
past weekend. 300 G attracted lots of attention in an interesting mix of
years, makes and models.
Turns out photos taken and available at www.cadillaclasalle.com (don't
ask)
under Car Cruise Links, All Makes + All Models; Cruise-A-Palooza, Sept 21.
Take note of a snapshot with my 5 yr daughter - classic case of Enough
already Dad!
Regards
Myles
http://www.nauticom.net
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 13:54:19 EDT
From: RONVE@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: no more popping - reply
In a message dated 9/26/2002 12:17:26 PM Central Daylight Time,
crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
> I still can't for the life of me
> comprehend how left turns could affect a distributor to the point that
this
> one was affected... it defies my logic... but, so be it, the problem is
> solved. It was an immediate fix, the problem was constantly present
before
> the distributor swap and disappeared completely with another distributor
> installed !
>
Hi John,
I agree with your 'defying logic', ...
However, there still remains the possibility that you solved the problem
by
moving something (the REAL problem) when you removed the distributor and
then
replaced it!
It will be interesting if Don finds 'nothing'.
Ron...
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 13:33:32 -0600
From: john_nowosacki@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: no more popping - reply
Remember that on a 413 the distributor points to the passenger (right)
side of the car, so on right turns there is a downforce applied to the
shaft and weights, while on left turns there is an upward force, which may
affect something inside the distributor. Don may not be able to simulate
this on his machine.
John
-----Original Message-----
From: RONVE@xxxxxxx [mailto:RONVE@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 1:54 PM
To: crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; laurence_g_johnson@xxxxxxxxxxx;
Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] no more popping - reply
In a message dated 9/26/2002 12:17:26 PM Central Daylight Time,
crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
> I still can't for the life of me
> comprehend how left turns could affect a distributor to the point that
this
> one was affected... it defies my logic... but, so be it, the problem is
> solved. It was an immediate fix, the problem was constantly present
before
> the distributor swap and disappeared completely with another distributor
> installed !
>
Hi John,
I agree with your 'defying logic', ...
However, there still remains the possibility that you solved the problem
by
moving something (the REAL problem) when you removed the distributor and
then
replaced it!
It will be interesting if Don finds 'nothing'.
Ron...
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 15:59:46 -0700
From: Mike Apfelbeck <moparmike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: no more popping - reply
You might take a look at the ground wire inside the distributor, every
time the vacuum advance plate moves it wiggles that wire, and it could
have
broken strands inside the insulation.
Mike
At 01:33 PM 9/26/2002 -0600, john_nowosacki@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>Remember that on a 413 the distributor points to the passenger (right)
>side of the car, so on right turns there is a downforce applied to the
>shaft and weights, while on left turns there is an upward force, which
may
>affect something inside the distributor. Don may not be able to simulate
>this on his machine.
>John
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: RONVE@xxxxxxx [mailto:RONVE@xxxxxxx]
>Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 1:54 PM
>To: crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; laurence_g_johnson@xxxxxxxxxxx;
>Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] no more popping - reply
>
>
>In a message dated 9/26/2002 12:17:26 PM Central Daylight Time,
>crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
>
>
> > I still can't for the life of me
> > comprehend how left turns could affect a distributor to the point that
this
> > one was affected... it defies my logic... but, so be it, the problem
is
> > solved. It was an immediate fix, the problem was constantly present
before
> > the distributor swap and disappeared completely with another
distributor
> > installed !
> >
>
>Hi John,
>I agree with your 'defying logic', ...
>However, there still remains the possibility that you solved the problem
by
>moving something (the REAL problem) when you removed the distributor and
then
>replaced it!
>It will be interesting if Don finds 'nothing'.
>Ron...
>
>
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 18:09:43 -0500
From: paulholm <paulholm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: no more popping - reply
Mike Apfelbeck wrote:
>
> You might take a look at the ground wire inside the distributor, every
> time the vacuum advance plate moves it wiggles that wire, and it could
have
> broken strands inside the insulation.
>
> Mike
If I remember rightly, my 57 distributor has a CLOTH covered wire
inside the dist. That can age and fray enough to short out at the
wrong time. Would his car have the same if it was the original wire??
--
Paul Holmgren
Hoosier Corps #33, L-6
2 57 300-C's in Indy
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 16:31:08 -0700
From: G Barker <gbarker@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Bad Dist.
Now that the popping was solved, I'm going to take a shot at why the
dist.is causing the problem. First I think you will find something
wrong with the mechanical advance weights. maybe a broken spring or a
stuck weight. and possibility something in the vacuum advance system
Its normal for your fuel level to change on a turn, but if you add an
advance system problem on top of the fuel level the problem it could
cause the problem. Just a wild guess. Gary Barker
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