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There are 8 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Multi-Vis Oils
From: "Wayne Graefen" <wgraefen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
2. Re: Re: Multi-Vis Oils
From: paulholm <paulholm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
3. H tail lite lenses
From: "luther caudle" <three00salot@xxxxxxx>
4. 2x CLEAR W590 NOS Windshields available
From: "Wayne Graefen" <wgraefen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
5. RE: 57 300C Stuff
From: "Jim Pristelski" <ajp002@xxxxxxx>
6. Mopar question
From: jim helm <helmj@xxxxxxxxxx>
7. Stainless steel restoration
From: "David Agnew" <Fnnutz@xxxxxxxxxx>
8. Re: Mopar question
From: sherwoodk@xxxxxxx
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 17:42:42 -0500
From: "Wayne Graefen" <wgraefen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Multi-Vis Oils
Parts Doc Gary was seeking comment on why multi-viscosity oils are
not recommended. My $.02 is that was a consensus around the car
hobby for all the while multi-vis existed .... until about 10 years
ago. I read an outstanding article in the Classic Car Club of
America publication to its members by a very highly placed oil
industry engineer regarding the fact that it was time to end all
that controversy.
While it had been true that some of the chemical blends required to
make the oils change viscosity depending on temperatures were often
less than ideal, particularly on very wide viscosity number spreads,
that the time had come to accept them and in fact embrace them
because for the old cars in particular, using multi-vis was going to
give the best protection at start up during our occasional use of
our cars and that the chemical package of today's multi-vis oils was
so superior to single-vis oils that they simply were a necessity for
old cars.
Now I would remind you that some of his readers had million dollar
Duesenbergs in their collections and other great classics so this
man was putting his carreer and reputation on the line and you can
bet would have been sued by a Hispano-Suiza owner if proven wrong.
So for our post-war near equivalents to the great pre-war Duesies, I
took his advice and offer it for your consideration.
Wayne
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 17:59:58 -0500
From: paulholm <paulholm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Re: Multi-Vis Oils
Wayne Graefen wrote:
> Parts Doc Gary was seeking comment on why multi-viscosity oils are
> not recommended. My $.02 is that was a consensus around the car
> hobby for all the while multi-vis existed .... until about 10 years
> ago. I read an outstanding article in the Classic Car Club of
> America publication to its members by a very highly placed oil
> industry engineer regarding the fact that it was time to end all
> that controversy.
> While it had been true that some of the chemical blends required to
> make the oils change viscosity depending on temperatures were often
> less than ideal, particularly on very wide viscosity number spreads,
> that the time had come to accept them and in fact embrace them
> because for the old cars in particular, using multi-vis was going to
> give the best protection at start up during our occasional use of
> our cars and that the chemical package of today's multi-vis oils was
> so superior to single-vis oils that they simply were a necessity for
> old cars.
> Now I would remind you that some of his readers had million dollar
> Duesenbergs in their collections and other great classics so this
> man was putting his carreer and reputation on the line and you can
> bet would have been sued by a Hispano-Suiza owner if proven wrong.
> So for our post-war near equivalents to the great pre-war Duesies, I
> took his advice and offer it for your consideration.
> Wayne
There is an EXCELLENT motor oil company in Indianapolis.
D - A Lubricants. It would be of some interest to see what those
folks have to say on this topic. At one time I used one of
their products ALL the time. Thier Speed-Sport oil was a real
fine product in our race motors. It seems that sometime
in the 90's it was reformulated for cars JUST like ours. (in
general) Those that saw imtermittent duty, good storage
charactoristics, but once in operation good lubrication.
Low acids buildup.
I brought this up once before.
Will have to dig the site location again.
--
Paul Holmgren
Hoosier Corps #33, L-6
2 57 300-C's in Indy
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 20:20:15 -0700
From: "luther caudle" <three00salot@xxxxxxx>
Subject: H tail lite lenses
Hi all,
Thanks for stainles renewal info.
I am also in need of info to find a pair of 62 H tail lite lenses in nice
condition.
Many thanks,
Luther
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 21:14:59 -0500
From: "Wayne Graefen" <wgraefen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: 2x CLEAR W590 NOS Windshields available
Hey y'all,
What two of you need a CLEAR original US bubble windshield for your 300F
hardtop or convert or for your '61-64 G, H, or K convertible? You know
its a judging thing - your car was built that way with clear glass and in
order to get full points for authenticity....
Here is your chance - Vic found two of them. First come first served I'm
sure. I don't know price - his comments below.
Contact Vic, not me! classicglass@xxxxxxxx
Wayne
----- Original Message -----
From: victor phillips
To: Wayne Graefen
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 10:56 PM
Subject: GLASS
WAYNE.
I JUST FOUND 2 NEW 1960 CLEAR BUBBLE U.S. OLD STOCK
WINDSHIELDS....SEE IF ANYONE NEEDS A CLEAR... EVERYTHING NOW DAYS ARE TINT
OR SHADED THEY WONT MAKE CLEAR. IF SOMEONE NEEDED A CLEAR W/S IT WOULD BE
HARD TO FIND.
VICTOR
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 22:08:12 -0500
From: "Jim Pristelski" <ajp002@xxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: 57 300C Stuff
I agree that straight weight 30 engine oil is the best for the summer
months
in the midwest climate, with 10W-30 for the winter months. Years ago my
Dad
was a mechanic for a bus company. He had to keep rebuilding the bus
engines. Then they switched from 10W-30 to straight 30, and the engine
rebuilding went to practically zero. The 30 weight provides significant
cushion between the rod bearings and the crankshaft that a multi-viscosity
cannot provide. If you like to rev your engine, use the 30 weight.
Best regards, Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Nelson [mailto:Gary@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 4:51 PM
To: Rusty and Thelma Roe; Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] 57 300C Stuff
Rusty,
I have learned that a good single viscosity oil is best, like 30 wt. If
car
has plenty of miles and the fact that it is summer I would use 40 wt. I
can
not remember the specific reason a multi viscosity is not recommended.
Maybe someone one the server can pick up on that issue.
As far as ATF, although Mopar calls for Dextron II, Type F is the
preferred
oil. It is less slippery and works better with clutches and bands. This is
obvious. Make sure they drain the torque converter also. Good luck on that
trip. Hope that A/C is up to snuff. At least I know you have a spare water
pump.
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 20:55:28 -0700
From: jim helm <helmj@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Mopar question
I hope this is an appropriate question for this group as it is really not
about a 300 letter car. Like many 300 owners, I also have a fondness for
all
things Mopar, especially if they come from the late 50's era, and I own
quite a selection of them. I recently purchased a 1957 Plymouth Sport
Suburban 9-passenger Station Wagon that is absolutely loaded and has the
Fury engine in it, complete with the dual 4-barrel carburetors and 300C
style air cleaners. I've been told that this engine was available only in
the Fury, but here it is in this station wagon and it certainly appears as
if the car was born with this engine. It is a really unique car, and I'm
wondering if any of you long time Mopar guys can remember if this engine
set-up was available in Plymouths other than Furys in 1957? I suppose it
is
possible that the engine was dealer or owner installed, but I'd like to
know
if the factory offered such a set-up. Comments?
Jim Helm
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:16:44 +1200
From: "David Agnew" <Fnnutz@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Stainless steel restoration
Luther..and others
George Iverson advertises in each Club mag, and has for years.
What I can say is this. I have seen some stainless moldings that were
in quite bad shape, and I have seen them now on the car. Like new. George
did them. He is somewhere in Minnesota.
George Iverson.
1-800-3250480
612-932-9026
Dave.
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 01:06:38 EDT
From: sherwoodk@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Mopar question
Jim:
You have a very interesting car... The Fury engine could be purchased in
any
model 57 Plymouth. It was the V800 option.
Sherwood Kahlenberg
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