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There are 13 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. any New York state car shows this weekend?
From: moparted <moparted_70@xxxxxxxxx>
2. Chrysler to soup up 300m - 255 hp!
From: Brian Hagen <brian.hagen@xxxxxxxxxxx>
3. Brake Booster Bellows
From: "Wayne Graefen" <wgraefen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
4. 300M special??
From: mwl1967@xxxxxxx
5. Brake booster bellows
From: Bob Jasinski <rpjasin@xxxxxxxxxxx>
6. Re: 300M special??
From: Bruce Paul <b_paul_ncp@xxxxxxxxx>
7. 56 Imp
From: paulholm <paulholm@xxxxxxxx>
8. Re: 300M special??
From: Russ Vaughan <russ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
9. 300 F rockers
From: Jeff Kerns <kernsinc@xxxxxxxxxxx>
10. Re: 300 F rockers
From: "Dean Mullinax" <55des4me@xxxxxxxx>
11. some thoughts
From: " Jim McMullan" <macthehammer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
12. Brake shoe arcing
From: Bob Jasinski <rpjasin@xxxxxxxxxxx>
13. Re: 300M special??
From: mr-320@xxxxxxxxx
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 05:27:50 -0800 (PST)
From: moparted <moparted_70@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: any New York state car shows this weekend?
Going to be around 60 degrees! Any events left?
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 09:15:08 -0500
From: Brian Hagen <brian.hagen@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Chrysler to soup up 300m - 255 hp!
DC to build souped-up 300M
DaimlerChrysler AG will start building 8,500 special-edition Chrysler 300M
sedans next month, boosting engine power to lift flagging sales until the
automaker can build a new version using Mercedes-Benz parts. The 2002 300M
Special will have a 255-horsepower, 3.5-liter engine, bigger wheels, added
molding and other features that will make it perform more like future
versions of the car, said Eric Ridenour, Chrysler's premium-vehicle
product
team vice president. The No. 3 U.S. automaker will start building the
models
Nov. 5 in Brampton, Ontario. Chrysler plans to use special versions of its
products and new accessories to increase sales next year because it
doesn't
have any new high-volume models to introduce, executives have said.
Brian
http://www.scatpack.com
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 08:31:00 -0600
From: "Wayne Graefen" <wgraefen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Brake Booster Bellows
Howdy all y'all,
I have been wanting to find out a little more about the reproduction
bellows
for the late '50s brake booster on our Mopars so I shot an email with a
few
questions to Karps in California to see if they were actually the ones who
had the bellows made or were just selling someone else's product.
The answer follows. Their web site is interesting as well. They are one
of
the alternatives to White Post for sleeving cylinders.
Wayne
-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Karp [mailto:karps@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 7:43 PM
To: Wayne Graefen
Subject: Re: Bellows
Dear Wayne,
Yes we do sell the Kelsey Hayes bellows. We have made the mold and they
are
brand new, not new-old stock. They do not have the Chrysler part numbers
on
them. We have been making them for 4 years and haven't had any trouble
with
any of them. The price is $150.00 for the bellows only and $250.00 for a
complete rebuild on the unit. We also offer plating or powder coating for
an additional cost. We install 304 stainless steel sleeves in master cyl.
and wheel cyl. Look up our web site at www.resleeve.com
Thank you, Ron Karp 909-985-0800
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 09:35:01 EST
From: mwl1967@xxxxxxx
Subject: 300M special??
I don't know where they're going with this or what they're pretending to
do
but 255hp sure doesnt seem so "special" to me. This considering the fact
that my '99 was rated at 253hp and that somewhere between then and now
they
changed the standard rating from 253 down to 250.
So... with the addition of dual exhaust and moving the peak hp reading up
a
couple hundred rpm they've gained 2 hp. What a feeble attempt... I
wonder
who' in Auburn Hills is responsible for dropping this ball. I sure hope I
don't try to pass one of those new 250hp 6 speed Nissan Altimas.
Mike Laiserin
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 07:53:32 -0800
From: Bob Jasinski <rpjasin@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Brake booster bellows
Dear Wayne and list,
Does the '61 brake booster use this same bellows that Karps has
reproduced?
Bob J
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 10:26:32 -0800 (PST)
From: Bruce Paul <b_paul_ncp@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: 300M special??
I am waiting for the new 300's to get back to 300 HP.
Where is Bob Lutz when you need him?
Bruce Paul-Cherry Hill, NJ
--- mwl1967@xxxxxxx wrote:
> I don't know where they're going with this or what
> they're pretending to do
> but 255hp sure doesnt seem so "special" to me. This
> considering the fact
> that my '99 was rated at 253hp and that somewhere
> between then and now they
> changed the standard rating from 253 down to 250.
>
> So... with the addition of dual exhaust and moving
> the peak hp reading up a
> couple hundred rpm they've gained 2 hp. What a
> feeble attempt... I wonder
> who' in Auburn Hills is responsible for dropping
> this ball. I sure hope I
> don't try to pass one of those new 250hp 6 speed
> Nissan Altimas.
>
> Mike Laiserin
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 14:00:52 -0500
From: paulholm <paulholm@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: 56 Imp
I have an ok computer wallpaper of a 56 Imperial if anyone
is interested I can e-mail it to you.
--
Paul Holmgren
Hoosier Corps #33, L-6
2 57 300-C's in Indy
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 11:09:23 -0800 (PST)
From: Russ Vaughan <russ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: 300M special??
Working for GM!!!
Don't forget though that due to change in the method
of calculating horsepower(gross vs. net) from then and
now a C300 would probably be less that the "M" in Net
HP!
300ly
Russ Vaughan
--- Bruce Paul <b_paul_ncp@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I am waiting for the new 300's to get back to 300
> HP.
> Where is Bob Lutz when you need him?
>
> Bruce Paul-Cherry Hill, NJ
>
>
> --- mwl1967@xxxxxxx wrote:
> > I don't know where they're going with this or what
> > they're pretending to do
> > but 255hp sure doesnt seem so "special" to me.
> This
> > considering the fact
> > that my '99 was rated at 253hp and that somewhere
> > between then and now they
> > changed the standard rating from 253 down to 250.
> >
> > So... with the addition of dual exhaust and
> moving
> > the peak hp reading up a
> > couple hundred rpm they've gained 2 hp. What a
> > feeble attempt... I wonder
> > who' in Auburn Hills is responsible for dropping
> > this ball. I sure hope I
> > don't try to pass one of those new 250hp 6 speed
> > Nissan Altimas.
> >
> > Mike Laiserin
> >
> >
>
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 19:37:24 -0800
From: Jeff Kerns <kernsinc@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: 300 F rockers
I just got my hardtop back from the paint shop and they lost all of the
incorrect stainless that ran around the wheel wells and rocker pannels.
They said that they would look for it. It was from a 60 New Yorker and I
was going to sell the 8 or 10 pieces but... isn't there supposed to be a
small "L" shapped piece that goes on the front of the back rear wheel
well, like a small stone guard? What is correct? I've seen differing
photos in all of the books I have.
Also, does anybody have Gary Goers e-mail and phone #? I still need a few
plastic parts.
Thanks,
Jeff Kerns in L.A.
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 22:29:25 -0500
From: "Dean Mullinax" <55des4me@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: 300 F rockers
Jeff,
Gary's email is Goers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx It seems to be the best way to
reach
him.
Good luck.
Dean Mullinax
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From: "Jeff Kerns" <kernsinc@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 10:37 PM
Subject: [Chrysler300] 300 F rockers
> I just got my hardtop back from the paint shop and they lost all of the
incorrect stainless that ran around the wheel wells and rocker pannels.
They
said that they would look for it. It was from a 60 New Yorker and I was
going to sell the 8 or 10 pieces but... isn't there supposed to be a small
"L" shapped piece that goes on the front of the back rear wheel well, like
a
small stone guard? What is correct? I've seen differing photos in all of
the
books I have.
>
> Also, does anybody have Gary Goers e-mail and phone #? I still need a
few
plastic parts.
> Thanks,
> Jeff Kerns in L.A.
>
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 19:38:23 -0800
From: " Jim McMullan" <macthehammer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: some thoughts
Hi All .Its a rainy afternoon. So decided to make some comments.To the guy
that wanted to put one soft break shoe and one hard shoe in each wheel
.Bad
idea. you will wind up with 1/2 the low speed(soft shoe )breaking and
ditto the
high speed. Also although the pressure is the same on both shoes the
forces are
deferent due to friction defrence.Its not smart to put unequal forces
inside a
rotating mass.Whell bearing failure or worse spindle failure will occur in
time.Thats why we Maguflux the spindles on rebuild! NEXT -when I took
machine
shop in high school in 1954 I was thought that the only thing to clean a
freshly bored cylinder with was HOT soapy water.Casoline-
lacquer thinner etc. will not work.You need the viscidly of the watter to
float the( fines) out of the pores of the metal and the heat to expand the
pores.If you skip this step when the rings burnish the cylinder you get a
vary hard glaze which retards heat transfer and also prevents oil
retention on
the cyl. wall .The same thing would apply to break drums or cast rotters.
Except
for the oil part.NEXT To the guy with the banging rebuilt
torqueflight The specs for a letter car on clutch pack clearance are
different
than a stocker about .010 less.if I remember right.When I rebuilt mine in
1978 I
got the spec from a guy in Washington after many phone calls.Its written
down
some ware but I'm not near my books.Is there some help out there? Also
remember that a torqeflite has to be run in.About 300 miles to get all the
fuzzys off the fibers and polish the steels.At 1000 miles change the fluid
to flush the little stuff out! NEXT the reason they
don't arc break shoes anymore is OSHA did not like the dust in the
air.And break shops could not afford to make them dust proofed --Got
side tracked to be continued. Jim
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 21:05:42 -0800
From: Bob Jasinski <rpjasin@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Brake shoe arcing
Jim and list,
You commented:
<the reason they don't arc break shoes anymore is OSHA did not like the
dust in the
air.And break shops could not afford to make them dust proofed>
I have not found this to be the case, even in environmentally conscious
California. I have a company that routinely arcs shoes to fit drums,
Friction Materials in Oakland CA., and they have done several cars for me.
The BIG issue is that they cannot do it with brake (friction) materials
that contain asbestos. There is no restriction on arcing modern,
non-asbestos, brake materials. I think the biggest reason you don't
commonly see arcing is that the arcing machines are not as prevalent as
they used to be with more and more cars having 4 wheel disc brakes.
Bob J
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 23:59:32 -0700 (MST)
From: mr-320@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: 300M special??
oh yeah; riiiight russ; that little whizbang v-6 will pull the c-300 or
my 300-k ram around better than the 392 or the 413,, riiiight !!!
JEFF
tucson az.
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