[Chrysler300] Digest Number 857
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[Chrysler300] Digest Number 857
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- Date: 7 Jan 2004 13:49:21 -0000
There are 11 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Suspension Clean Up
From: xramkroozer@xxxxxx
2. Re: auto headlight dimmer
From: xramkroozer@xxxxxx
3. Re: Chrysler 300 News of the ME 4-12
From: Russ Vaughan <Pacesetter300@xxxxxxxxx>
4. Re: Chrysler 300 News of the ME 4-12
From: "Henry Hopkins" <hhrp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
5. Chrysler 300 News of the ME 4-12
From: dan300f@xxxxxxx
6. Re:
From: "Don Verity" <d.verity@xxxxxxx>
7. Re:
From: "patrick grant" <gran102@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
8. RE:
From: "Terry & Andree Hoeman" <tehoema@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
9. Me412
From: Ben Meisner <meisnerinc@xxxxxxx>
10. Re: Chrysler 300 News of the ME 4-12
From: "patrick grant" <gran102@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
11. serialnumber???????????
From: Sören Persson <bigchrysler300@xxxxxxxx>
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 08:52:22 EST
From: xramkroozer@xxxxxx
Subject: Re: Suspension Clean Up
In a message dated 1/5/04 5:55:26 PM Eastern Standard Time,
crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
>
> Everything else (spindles; lower control arms; steering arms, strut bars,
> tie rods and all steering linkages) should be left "au naturel" - bare
> metal.
>
> I have used Eastwood's "Nyalic" in the past with less than great result.
> Even though the parts were carefully bead-blasted to within an inch of their
> lives, and carefully covered in two or three coats of the Nyalic stuff, they
> did start to rust after a short time. I did talk to my local powdercoating
> shop, and alas, clear powdercoating is not available.
>
> Not sure what I'll do with the next project. Maybe buy a few cans of clear
> Rust-Oleum and try that instead. Anyone out there have any comments or
> suggestions?
THE "NATURAL" BARE METAL PARTS CAN BE JET HOT "CERAMIC" COATED. IT'S THE
COATING STREET RODDERS USE ON HEADERS. IT ALSO COMES IN A CAST IRON COLOR. IT
WOULD BE A FOREVER SOLUTION. AFTER RESTORING 1 CAR YOU LEARN TO DO IT ONCE & DO
IT RIGHT. STEVE ESTOK, TOMS RIVER, NJ
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 09:01:31 EST
From: xramkroozer@xxxxxx
Subject: Re: auto headlight dimmer
CHRYSLER OFFERED THE AUTOMATIC BEAM CHANGER IN 1960 @ A COST OF $44. STEVE
ESTOK, TOMS RIVER, NJ
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 07:26:36 -0800 (PST)
From: Russ Vaughan <Pacesetter300@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Chrysler 300 News of the ME 4-12
Geeze I H A T E this. Just put a new cam in my engine and now I gotta put in a hotter one in to keep ahead of these guys. Progress Progress! There go some resto points!
Seriously sounds like a great car. Maybe some club member will get to drive one and give us a first hand report.
Russ Vaughan
Ray Jones <hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Taken from an Edmonds Video in the NY Times:
Chrysler ME Four-Twelve Prototype
Date Posted 01-04-2004
What Is It?
Chrysler ME Four-Twelve Prototype
What's Special About It?
Evidently, DaimlerChrysler executives couldn't sit idly by as Ford took its
GT supercar from concept to 2005 production car. And so on the first day of
the big show in Detroit, they surprised the tightly packed crowd by
unveiling one of their own, the ME Four-Twelve.
"ME" stands for midengine, while "Four-Twelve" refers the car's 6.0-liter,
12-cylinder engine force-fed by four turbochargers. The engine, by the way,
was developed with the help of the elite AMG performance division of
Mercedes-Benz. Output is rated at an incredible 850 horsepower at 5,750 rpm
and 850 pound-feet of torque from 2,500 to 4,500 rpm. With a curb weight of
2,800 pounds, the ME Four-Twelve has a power-to-weight of one horsepower for
every 3.4 pounds of car. It's hard to get your mind around numbers like
these, but the projected acceleration numbers are cause for faint-hearted
enthusiasts to take a chair: The ME is said to be capable of pulling a
2.9-second 0-to-60-mph run and a 10.6-second quarter-mile at 142 mph. Top
speed is 248 mph. Power flows to the 20-inch rear wheels via a seven-speed
Ricardo double wet-clutch transmission. Drivers will use Formula One-style
shift paddles to change gears.
It goes without saying that the ME Four-Twelve is constructed of extremely
lightweight materials ? carbon fiber and aluminum ? that give it the rigid
foundation necessary for supercar reflexes. The suspension employs a double
wishbone design, and the compression and rebound that result from cornering
forces are electronically controlled. The braking system makes use of
15-inch ventilated carbon ceramic rotors. The wheels measure 19 by 10 inches
in front and 20 by 12.5 inches in back, and are respectively fitted with
265/35 and 335/30 Michelins. Inside the cockpit, designers allowed plenty of
the car's carbon-fiber structure to show through, but company executives
noted that all surfaces likely to come into contact with the car's occupants
are covered in fine-quality materials.
What's Edmunds' Take?
Chrysler executives were adamant that the ME Four-Twelve is a prototype, not
a concept, and insist that it will be road-ready by the summer of 2004.
Besides providing the company with considerable bragging rights, the
prospect of a production car gives well-to-do Mopar enthusiasts a new reason
to dream. ? Erin Riches
--
Ray Jones, Jones Ridge, in the Ouachita Mtns near Mena, Western Arkansas
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 08:29:39 -0800
From: "Henry Hopkins" <hhrp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Chrysler 300 News of the ME 4-12
Picture of it in Business Section of today's(1/6) San Francisco Chronicle
along with a pic of the Ford 500 that looks like a VW Passat with a chicken
wire grille. Also a "new" small Chevy that looks like a slightly warmed
over Cavalier, but it has a satellite radio-whoopee-that will get me in to
the dealership???
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ray Jones" <hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Chrysler 300 Listserver" <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 9:12 PM
Subject: [Chrysler300] Chrysler 300 News of the ME 4-12
Taken from an Edmonds Video in the NY Times:
Chrysler ME Four-Twelve Prototype
Date Posted 01-04-2004
What Is It?
Chrysler ME Four-Twelve Prototype
What's Special About It?
Evidently, DaimlerChrysler executives couldn't sit idly by as Ford took its
GT supercar from concept to 2005 production car. And so on the first day of
the big show in Detroit, they surprised the tightly packed crowd by
unveiling one of their own, the ME Four-Twelve.
"ME" stands for midengine, while "Four-Twelve" refers the car's 6.0-liter,
12-cylinder engine force-fed by four turbochargers. The engine, by the way,
was developed with the help of the elite AMG performance division of
Mercedes-Benz. Output is rated at an incredible 850 horsepower at 5,750 rpm
and 850 pound-feet of torque from 2,500 to 4,500 rpm. With a curb weight of
2,800 pounds, the ME Four-Twelve has a power-to-weight of one horsepower for
every 3.4 pounds of car. It's hard to get your mind around numbers like
these, but the projected acceleration numbers are cause for faint-hearted
enthusiasts to take a chair: The ME is said to be capable of pulling a
2.9-second 0-to-60-mph run and a 10.6-second quarter-mile at 142 mph. Top
speed is 248 mph. Power flows to the 20-inch rear wheels via a seven-speed
Ricardo double wet-clutch transmission. Drivers will use Formula One-style
shift paddles to change gears.
It goes without saying that the ME Four-Twelve is constructed of extremely
lightweight materials < carbon fiber and aluminum < that give it the rigid
foundation necessary for supercar reflexes. The suspension employs a double
wishbone design, and the compression and rebound that result from cornering
forces are electronically controlled. The braking system makes use of
15-inch ventilated carbon ceramic rotors. The wheels measure 19 by 10 inches
in front and 20 by 12.5 inches in back, and are respectively fitted with
265/35 and 335/30 Michelins. Inside the cockpit, designers allowed plenty of
the car's carbon-fiber structure to show through, but company executives
noted that all surfaces likely to come into contact with the car's occupants
are covered in fine-quality materials.
What's Edmunds' Take?
Chrysler executives were adamant that the ME Four-Twelve is a prototype, not
a concept, and insist that it will be road-ready by the summer of 2004.
Besides providing the company with considerable bragging rights, the
prospect of a production car gives well-to-do Mopar enthusiasts a new reason
to dream. < Erin Riches
--
Ray Jones, Jones Ridge, in the Ouachita Mtns near Mena, Western Arkansas
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 14:53:12 EST
From: dan300f@xxxxxxx
Subject: Chrysler 300 News of the ME 4-12
Hi all:
That Chrysler ME412 is one mean looking dude!!!!!! Take a look at it on
Autoweek's web site, www.autoweek.com.
Dan Reitz
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 18:48:54 -0800
From: "Don Verity" <d.verity@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re:
Hi Bill,
I had a similar experience with a 70 dash pad. I used a product called
"Greased Lightning" and it cleaned it up quite well. I did have the
advantage of the pad being off the car so I could hose it down. Seems to be
a problem with the 70 year only for some reason.
300ly,
Don
----- Original Message -----
From: William Huff <whuff@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 9:57 PM
Subject: [Chrysler300]
> Hi Group,
>
> I have a 70 300 vert that is slowly going back on the road. It has been
> sitting under dry shelter for about 2 years. I have now discovered the
> vinyl dash pad has a thick greasy coating on it. It is transparent but
> sticky. I have tried alcohol and then some enamel thinner on it, but it
> doesn't take all of the coating off, although it is less sticky. I am
> leery of using stronger solvents. Does anyone have any experience with
> this? Any solutions? Oh yes, I live in Florida, so there was humidity to
> consider, but I kept Damp-Rid in the car to lower humidity.
>
> Same car, a previous repaint has left some of the underhood rubber with
> overspray. Any hints on how to remove the paint and restore the original
> flat black surface of the rubber?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill Huff
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 19:23:17 -0500
From: "patrick grant" <gran102@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re:
i have(had ) the same problem with a 69. has to do with the material used back then. just takes a LOT of scrubbing. dont wish it away because when it stops sweating it starts cracking. pat
----- Original Message -----
From: Don Verity
To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; William Huff
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300]
Hi Bill,
I had a similar experience with a 70 dash pad. I used a product called
"Greased Lightning" and it cleaned it up quite well. I did have the
advantage of the pad being off the car so I could hose it down. Seems to be
a problem with the 70 year only for some reason.
300ly,
Don
----- Original Message -----
From: William Huff <whuff@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 9:57 PM
Subject: [Chrysler300]
> Hi Group,
>
> I have a 70 300 vert that is slowly going back on the road. It has been
> sitting under dry shelter for about 2 years. I have now discovered the
> vinyl dash pad has a thick greasy coating on it. It is transparent but
> sticky. I have tried alcohol and then some enamel thinner on it, but it
> doesn't take all of the coating off, although it is less sticky. I am
> leery of using stronger solvents. Does anyone have any experience with
> this? Any solutions? Oh yes, I live in Florida, so there was humidity to
> consider, but I kept Damp-Rid in the car to lower humidity.
>
> Same car, a previous repaint has left some of the underhood rubber with
> overspray. Any hints on how to remove the paint and restore the original
> flat black surface of the rubber?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill Huff
>
>
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 18:37:52 -0600
From: "Terry & Andree Hoeman" <tehoema@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE:
The arm rests on the 55s are the same situation. Always getting greasy
feeling. It's the result of the material deterioration and yes when it
stops the material cracks as I understand it. Saw an article on the subject
a few years ago talking about it as the Barbie Doll effect since the early
Barbie's do it also.
-----Original Message-----
From: patrick grant [mailto:gran102@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 6:23 PM
To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; William Huff; Don Verity
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300]
i have(had ) the same problem with a 69. has to do with the material used
back then. just takes a LOT of scrubbing. dont wish it away because when it
stops sweating it starts cracking. pat
----- Original Message -----
From: Don Verity
To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; William Huff
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300]
Hi Bill,
I had a similar experience with a 70 dash pad. I used a product called
"Greased Lightning" and it cleaned it up quite well. I did have the
advantage of the pad being off the car so I could hose it down. Seems to
be
a problem with the 70 year only for some reason.
300ly,
Don
----- Original Message -----
From: William Huff <whuff@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 9:57 PM
Subject: [Chrysler300]
> Hi Group,
>
> I have a 70 300 vert that is slowly going back on the road. It has been
> sitting under dry shelter for about 2 years. I have now discovered the
> vinyl dash pad has a thick greasy coating on it. It is transparent but
> sticky. I have tried alcohol and then some enamel thinner on it, but it
> doesn't take all of the coating off, although it is less sticky. I am
> leery of using stronger solvents. Does anyone have any experience with
> this? Any solutions? Oh yes, I live in Florida, so there was humidity
to
> consider, but I kept Damp-Rid in the car to lower humidity.
>
> Same car, a previous repaint has left some of the underhood rubber with
> overspray. Any hints on how to remove the paint and restore the
original
> flat black surface of the rubber?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill Huff
>
>
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 18:51:39 -0800
From: Ben Meisner <meisnerinc@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Me412
I have just completed the cost for the new ME 412 for the benefit of all you folks who live north of the 49th. The cost in Canadian dollars for this new car will be $ 677,168.80 , of course bearing in mind that does not include the prep charge or a tank full of gas. It does sound a tad more then I would like to pay to run down to the corner store to pick up a bottle of milk , but then on the other hand when I stop to consider what I put in my last E it someone doesn't sound to exorbitant .
Meisner
>From the frozzzzzen bloody north !!!
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 22:27:21 -0500
From: "patrick grant" <gran102@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Chrysler 300 News of the ME 4-12
i wonder if metalcrafters built that body???
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From: dan300f@xxxxxxx
To: chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 2:53 PM
Subject: [Chrysler300] Chrysler 300 News of the ME 4-12
Hi all:
That Chrysler ME412 is one mean looking dude!!!!!! Take a look at it on
Autoweek's web site, www.autoweek.com.
Dan Reitz
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 07:59:36 +0100 (CET)
From: Sören Persson <bigchrysler300@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: serialnumber???????????
Hi
Can anybody help me to identify this engine?
serial number.
MP 413
22698
casting number.
1851629-2
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