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Posted 2024-05-14 6:44 PM (#635191)
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Good morning everyone,

I just wanted to introduce my new to me 1959 Dodge Coronet 2 dr HT. I started looking for this car when I saw the post on the "bas***dized Coronet" posted by Wetskier2000. Once I saw the grumpy front end and those amazing fins/tail lights I knew I was in love and I had to have one. I started searching and could only find either completely restored cars or rusted out basket cases. I did find a few 4 door cars but knew I wanted a 2 dr HT and that was a task. After a few months looking I talked to another forum member from this site and he recommended John at Big M Auto. I had previously bought parts for my 1958 Plymouth Belvedere from John but did not know he had complete cars. So, I called John and to my surprise...he told me he had the exact car I was looking for. My daughter and I ended up taking a 1,000 mile trip to see the car and...well...I had to have it...so I bought it.

The car turned out to be everything John said it was and more. The floors are absolutely perfect....no rust at all. The frames, the rockers, the fenders etc are perfect. The interior is complete and the seats don't even have any tears in them. It also has the original headliner, glove box, much of the original blue carpet/pad...you name it and it has it...all original. The only rust John mentioned was in the trunk...and that is really not bad at all. John did mention that the original owner parked the car a long time ago (the license plate tags say 1976 and there is also a registration card on the sun visor from 1976). The owner removed the spark plugs....I guess for a tune up and never put them back. The spark plugs were still sitting on the intake manifold. The car was parked in a garage but some surface rust has accumulated in the engine over those 48 years and I'm hopeful I can get it turning over. There is a little surface rust on the back end. John mentioned the car was too long for the small garage and the back end stuck out.

My plans are to get this engine freed up and hopefully get it running. After that....well, only time will tell.

My kids love the car and have already nicknamed it "The Grinch".

On a side note, it had a mix of rims on it, 15" and 14", so I'm looking at getting the correct set. I believe the car should have 15" rims with 5 x 4.5 bolt pattern. Can someone confirm that?

Thanks for letting me share.

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Lancer Mike
Posted 2024-05-14 7:35 PM (#635192 - in reply to #635191)
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Welcome, Dave!  The Grinch looks great.  I don't know the wheel size question - I would assume 14s, but someone here will know.

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Posted 2024-05-14 9:02 PM (#635195 - in reply to #635192)
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The correct wheels are 14". The hubcaps that you posted are also 14". If you look on the reverse, there are 'grippers' that mount to the 14" rims. Also, if you are on facebook, feel free to join the Only the 1959 Dodge group. Over 6000 members. Lots of knowledgeable folks ready to answer your questions.

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Posted 2024-05-14 10:03 PM (#635197 - in reply to #635191)
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Posted 2024-05-15 11:42 AM (#635202 - in reply to #635191)
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Could you post a data plate picture, please?
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Posted 2024-05-15 11:48 AM (#635203 - in reply to #635191)
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Oh, your data plate located near master brake cylinder, so it it Newark Delaware built car!
The serial no. should have start at M315 and up...



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Posted 2024-05-15 5:42 PM (#635207 - in reply to #635191)
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Location: So. Cal		Congratulations on the new project! It looks like your radio is from a 1960-61 Chrysler. Your engine is a 326, which is a bored out 318. If you can't get the engine to turn, you can pull the heads, do a valve job while they are off, clean out the rust with a wire wheel, oil it, and get it going that way.
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Posted 2024-05-15 9:27 PM (#635209 - in reply to #635191)
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Thanks for the comments, I really appreciate it. Yeah, I'm hoping the engine frees up but if not, then will probably pull the heads. Did not know the radio was not original.

Started some of the clean up today. For a car that looked so clean, I was AMAZED by the mouse nests under the rear seat. Took several hours to get it cleaned out. The amazing part is they did not damage the seats, door panels or headliner. Just packed the seats with junk. The floors are completely solid...not one hole anywhere....just some surface rust. Fun, fun fun....



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Posted 2024-05-15 9:53 PM (#635210 - in reply to #635191)
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Location: Newark, Texas (Fort Worth)		Nice Car! That's my favorite Mopar from 1959. Yes, a one year only 326 'A' Polyspherical Engine. There are 1957/1958 Plymouth Fury Dual Quad 'V800' (318 poly) intake manifolds that will fit. It wouldn't be a sin to go with 15' wheels and nice fat 235-70-R15 tires and Disc brakes behind them. Fury Jim has a album on the conversion: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10222853972834529&type=3 Are you going to paint it white? Ever see the 'Silver Charger'? https://www.macsmotorcitygarage.com/dodge-challenger-the-first-the-1... Good luck with the project. Marc.
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Posted 2024-05-16 8:32 PM (#635219 - in reply to #635191)
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Got the floor pans cleaned up today. There is surface rust but not one single hole in the front or rear floor pan. It's a labor of love that's for sure!!



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Posted 2024-05-16 9:25 PM (#635221 - in reply to #635210)
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mstrug - 2024-05-15 9:53 PM Nice Car! That's my favorite Mopar from 1959. Yes, a one year only 326 'A' Polyspherical Engine. There are 1957/1958 Plymouth Fury Dual Quad 'V800' (318 poly) intake manifolds that will fit. It wouldn't be a sin to go with 15' wheels and nice fat 235-70-R15 tires and Disc brakes behind them.

Some folks actually like to keep their car bone stock original and not turn it into a highly modified clown car.

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Posted 2024-05-16 11:06 PM (#635222 - in reply to #635221)
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ronbo97 - 2024-05-16 9:25 PM

mstrug - 2024-05-15 9:53 PM Nice Car! That's my favorite Mopar from 1959. Yes, a one year only 326 'A' Polyspherical Engine. There are 1957/1958 Plymouth Fury Dual Quad 'V800' (318 poly) intake manifolds that will fit. It wouldn't be a sin to go with 15' wheels and nice fat 235-70-R15 tires and Disc brakes behind them.

Some folks actually like to keep their car bone stock original and not turn it into a highly modified clown car.

Ron



While I like original cars, 15" wheels and discs wouldn't turn it into a "clown car". Don't you agree? 15" wheels were optional for 60 Plymouths and I would be surprised if that wasn't optional for 59 Dodges too.
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Posted 2024-05-17 7:51 AM (#635226 - in reply to #635221)
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ronbo97 - 2024-05-16 8:25 PM

mstrug - 2024-05-15 9:53 PM Nice Car! That's my favorite Mopar from 1959. Yes, a one year only 326 'A' Polyspherical Engine. There are 1957/1958 Plymouth Fury Dual Quad 'V800' (318 poly) intake manifolds that will fit. It wouldn't be a sin to go with 15' wheels and nice fat 235-70-R15 tires and Disc brakes behind them.

Some folks actually like to keep their car bone stock original and not turn it into a highly modified clown car.

Ron



Clown car? What's wrong with you? It was a constructive Opinion/option for him. Stop being such a Debbie Downer. I request you STOP commenting on my replys. WE DON"T NEED IT!
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Posted 2024-05-17 10:05 AM (#635230 - in reply to #635226)
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Hey, it must really suck to realize that not everyone agrees with you.

Ron

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Posted 2024-05-17 10:09 AM (#635231 - in reply to #635222)
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1960fury - 2024-05-16 11:06 PM

 While I like original cars, 15" wheels and discs wouldn't turn it into a "clown car". Don't you agree? 15" wheels were optional for 60 Plymouths and I would be surprised if that wasn't optional for 59 Dodges too.

They weren't. Just FYI.

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Posted 2024-05-17 1:14 PM (#635233 - in reply to #635202)
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frwl - 2024-05-15 11:42 AM

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Could you post a data plate picture, please?
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Still haven’t got a data tag picture…
Should be viewing codes 292, 301, 419, PNT 1XXX, TRM 145…
Can you confirm that?

BTW: Did you find a broadcast sheet under the any seat? (besides the rat’s nest)
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Posted 2024-05-17 2:30 PM (#635242 - in reply to #635231)
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1960fury - 2024-05-16 11:06 PM

 While I like original cars, 15" wheels and discs wouldn't turn it into a "clown car". Don't you agree? 15" wheels were optional for 60 Plymouths and I would be surprised if that wasn't optional for 59 Dodges too.

They weren't. Just FYI.

Ron



But for 60 Plymouths. Does this make it a "Clown Car" in your book now, or is it OK, because someone back than happen to make it optional?
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Posted 2024-05-17 3:48 PM (#635243 - in reply to #635242)
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1960fury - 2024-05-17 2:30 PM But for 60 Plymouths. Does this make it a "Clown Car" in your book now, or is it OK, because someone back than happen to make it optional?

We're talking here about a 59 Dodge. Not a 60 Plymouth.

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Posted 2024-05-17 4:45 PM (#635245 - in reply to #635243)
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1960fury - 2024-05-17 2:30 PM But for 60 Plymouths. Does this make it a "Clown Car" in your book now, or is it OK, because someone back than happen to make it optional?

We're talking here about a 59 Dodge. Not a 60 Plymouth.

Ron



Yes, and I just wanted to know, If, by your "Logic", any FL Car with 15" wheels is a clowns car, or just 59 Dodges, and If so, why? It is period correct and you can't really tell the difference.
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Posted 2024-05-17 5:05 PM (#635246 - in reply to #635191)
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Location: So. Cal		Ron, 15" wheels were optional on any forwardlook car that was used for police or taxi. So yes, the '59 Dodge could have come with 15" wheels from the factory. I'm not sure if they were available to the general public or not, but nevertheless, if you really wanted it back then, you probably could have got it.

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Posted 2024-05-17 5:44 PM (#635249 - in reply to #635191)
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Posted 2024-05-17 6:02 PM (#635250 - in reply to #635246)
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Powerflite - 2024-05-17 5:05 PM Ron, 15" wheels were optional on any forwardlook car that was used for police or taxi. So yes, the '59 Dodge could have come with 15" wheels from the factory. I'm not sure if they were available to the general public or not, but nevertheless, if you really wanted it back then, you probably could have got it.

Nope. Only 14" wheels for '59, according to the 59 Dodge Police Brochure. Also, it was the mention of 15" wheels paired with 235-70-R15 tires that makes it look stoopid.

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Posted 2024-05-18 11:59 AM (#635254 - in reply to #635191)
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Posted 2024-05-18 12:12 PM (#635255 - in reply to #635254)
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mstrug - 2024-05-18 11:59 AM

I asked you nicely to STOP commenting on my replies. Mods, please take care of this. Just because I have an opinion, it is not STUPID. The ego on this guy is astonishing. Why does he have to inject negativity and no positive comments at all? Marc in Newark.


While I do agree, that 15" wheels do not look stupid, stop screaming for the mods. Learn to live with different opinions and grow some.
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Posted 2024-05-18 12:25 PM (#635256 - in reply to #635254)
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Mstrug, as I stated before:

It must really suck to realize that not everyone agrees with you. And as Sid correctly stated, Learn to live with different opinions and grow some.

Ron

 

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Posted 2024-05-18 9:11 PM (#635263 - in reply to #635191)
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Posted 2024-05-19 12:12 AM (#635265 - in reply to #635263)
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Did the Grinch cough up any old coins from beneath the seats?  When I pulled the seats from one of my '58s, I found a silver quarter, a silver dime, and a few pennies. I also found some Coors Brewery can openers.  Fun stuff!

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Posted 2024-05-20 12:41 PM (#635283 - in reply to #635191)
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Good morning!! The weekend was busy but fulfilling. I was able to pressure wash the car and get 48 years of grime, dirt and crap off the paint. The car cleaned up very well. I even did a little polishing of the chrome. Also added some whitewall tires and got the interior floor and trunk completely cleaned as well as the interior and put rust reformer on the floor and trunk. Next step will be to paint the floor and trunk. I also got the engine compartment pressure washed. Was the factory air intake and valve covers red?

No luck on any coins etc. I did find an old wallet....but it was empty. The trunk had several very old oil jug can openers for pouring oil and some empty glass beer cans. The old owner must have liked to party!!



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Posted 2024-05-20 8:33 PM (#635285 - in reply to #635283)
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Ooooo!  That cleaned up sooooooooooooo nice!!!

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Posted 2024-05-20 8:35 PM (#635286 - in reply to #635285)
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It would be tempting to do a HPOF on that one - it looks so nice 

 

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Posted 2024-05-20 9:12 PM (#635289 - in reply to #635286)
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The engine, including the valve covers, were silver. Some engine paint manufacturers call the color Aluminum. The air cleaner housing was red, as you see.

Ron

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Posted 2024-05-21 11:07 AM (#635295 - in reply to #635191)
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Thanks. Will be removing the valve covers to inspect the top end while I break the engine free. Will probably paint them and the air cleaner housing while I'm at it. Even though the engine does not turn yet does not mean it can't look good!!! Thanks everyone for the helpful comments.
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Posted 2024-05-21 6:10 PM (#635298 - in reply to #635191)
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Today I removed the valve covers. Top end looks pretty dirty...not sure how often the oil was changed...but the car has been sitting for 48 years. I used a mallet to bang the valves and all moved/were free. I was also able to rotate all of the push rods. So I feel like the valve train is not the sticking issue. I also removed the starter to rule that out. The accessories are also unhooked and all move freely. I filled all the cylinders with a 50/50 mixture of diesel fuel and ATF. Also poured some into the valve train. Will keep my fingers crossed the engine breaks free.



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Posted 2024-05-21 10:38 PM (#635303 - in reply to #635298)
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You may want to verify that the transmission isn't in gear. Also, it may take a little while to break things free.

My preferred method is to put a serious breaker bar with a 3/4" drive socket (probably 1 1/4") on the crank nut. After the juice has had a chance to seep in, tap the breaker bar in a clock wise direction, followed by a tap in a counter-clockwise direction. You may need to use an extension on the breaker bar to give you additional torque. Keep us posted !

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Posted 2024-05-22 2:25 AM (#635306 - in reply to #635191)
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Think about when all that petrified oil will be partly dissolved and starts moving in the oil galleries , lifters and bearing shells.
The oil pump strainer will also be 90 percent clogged...disaster is close.
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Posted 2024-05-22 10:20 AM (#635312 - in reply to #635191)
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Thanks for the suggestions. I did make sure the transmission pushbutton was in Neutral. The driveshaft is very hard to turn from under the car but does turn in neutral. I think the parking brake might be sticking. I did check the parking brake and it does work when pulled but just surprised by how stiff it is too turn the driveshaft. I can't see the pushbutton cable moving so is there any other way to confirm it's in neutral? My son and I rotated the rear wheels and it's very hard to hold one and turn the other.

As for starting the engine without a complete rebuild...well, I might be a long ways away from that. However, if I get it moving I will probably try to get it running and flush out the engine several times with fresh oil to keep it cleaned out. I know it will eventually need a rebuild so it's a risk I don't mind taking.
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Posted 2024-05-22 11:38 AM (#635315 - in reply to #635312)
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Since the driveshaft is directly behind the hand brake setup, if you can turn the driveshaft when the car is in neutral, then the hand brake is not sticking or frozen. If you don't have a shop manual yet, then I would recommend getting one. BUT, I would recommend buying a 1958 Plymouth shop manual (yellow cover), since both cars are very similar and the Plymouth shop manual is well-written, as opposed to the 58 Dodge and 59 Dodge supplement, which are very difficult to understand and follow.

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Posted 2024-05-22 1:36 PM (#635317 - in reply to #635191)
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Thanks Ron for the recommendation on the 1958 Plymouth shop manual. Did not even think of that but I do have one for my 1958 Belvedere.
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Posted 2024-05-23 11:20 AM (#635330 - in reply to #635191)
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Good morning everyone. I hope you have a wonderful Memorial Day weekend. Yesterday I added more diesel/ATF fluid mixture to the cylinders and top end. I did notice that several of the cylinders had completely drained all of the fluid out so that's good news that those rings are breaking free. I've also got a big breaker bar on the crank bolt under pressure to help. I'm taking my time as it's only been 2 days of soaking the engine. Will probably try to paint the floor and trunk this weekend and reinstall the interior. At least that will make it feel like progress is being made. I also bought a new master cylinder, brake lines, bearings and wheel cylinders so will get the manual brakes up and working. Step by step it gets better and better!!!
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Posted 2024-05-28 9:08 PM (#635432 - in reply to #635191)
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The weekend was busy. Got the interior floor finished and painted. Also did some temporary patch work on the trunk and got that painted (I know it's not the best but just wanted something to keep any fury critters out for now until I can do a better job at a later date). Need to install the interior next.


The engine is still stuck...but one thing that has me confused....if I use a prybar on the flex plate teeth from under the engine and try to rotate the engine counter clockwise the flex plate AND crank pulley will rotate counter clockwise about a 1/2 inch....BUT ONLY if someone is pushing on a breaker bar (on the crank bolt) and going CLOCKWISE. Makes no sense to me. If no one pushes on the breaker bar, I can't move the flex plate at all. If someone pushes on the breaker bar in the SAME direction as I'm prying the flex plate...nothing happens. Can't wrap my head around the fact that 2 opposite direction forces get the crank to move. Any ideas???



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Posted 2024-05-28 9:40 PM (#635433 - in reply to #635432)
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One answer to your confusion is the crank is broken (I hope that am wrong but that would fit with your evidence). Think spiral fracture.

Hope I wrong.

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